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Perodua Viva Elite: a new look for the Viva

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Perodua Viva Elite

Perodua launched the new Perodua ViVA Elite today, aimed at offering the market a variant with a more stylish image compared to the original ViVA. It is an aesthetic modification in the style of the Myvi SE, and at the same time they’ve revamped the model line-up a little.

The ViVA was first introduced with 660cc, 850cc, 1,000cc and 1,000cc premium variants. Now it has restructured the model lineup, offering the 660 BX MT, 660 EX MT, 850 MT, 1.0 AT, 1.0 ELITE MT, 1.0 ELITE AT, and the 1.0 ELITE EZi. That’s three different variants for the new ViVA ELITE.

Perodua Viva Elite

Externally, the ViVA Elite has its own front bumper with integrated foglamps, front grille and its own engine hood design. On the side you’ll see chrome door handles, side skirts, and 14 inch 12-spoke alloy wheels. On the back you’ll see a new rear bumper with a honeycomb grille design, and the 1.0 ELITE EZi model (note, this is different from the ELITE AT) gets an additional rear spoiler. The windows of the ViVA Elite also feature a UV protection coating that is said to reject 91% of UV rays.

On the inside you get a new 1-DIN head unit with MP3 and WMA support, an underside tray under the passenger seat, seat backpockets, a new seat fabric design, and fabric trim on the door panels. All ViVA ELITE models will get seat height adjusters for the driver’s seat, and electrically adjustable side mirrors. On the ELITE EZi, these side mirrors are also electrically retractable and have integrated turn signals.

Perodua Viva Elite

Only the ViVA 1.0 ELITE EZi gets a full load of safety features including dual SRS airbags for the front, ABS brakes, EBD and Brake Assist. Power steering is also only available on the ELITE models. The other non-Elite models are left with just basic features such as reverse sensors on the 850 and 1.0 model, and a CD player on the 660 EX, 850 and 1.0 model. The following are the prices for the new Perodua ViVA range including the non-Elite models:

  • Perodua ViVA Elite M/T – RM37,900
  • Perodua ViVA Elite A/T – RM40,900
  • Perodua ViVA Elite EZi – RM44,900
  • Perodua ViVA 1.0 AT – RM36,900
  • Perodua ViVA 850 MT – RM32,900
  • Perodua ViVA 660 EX MT – RM28,900
  • Perodua ViVA 660 BX MT – RM25,300

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628 Comments »

  1. numb3r7mu said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:43 pm

    P2 whatever

  2. numb3r7mu said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

    mine 1st ler

  3. neo said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:46 pm

    Very nice Facelift……

  4. slimershine said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:46 pm

    what so elite? new bumper ah?

  5. Paul Tan said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:47 pm

    Well, got power steering too. :)

  6. LaPan said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:50 pm

    front grille inspired by new Honda City? ;p

  7. engdau said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

    I’m no. 6.

  8. viva9934 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:56 pm

    Agree with LaPan…

    This is wat P2 specialized in…

    *wink*

  9. Bw said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:56 pm

    the front look uglier le

  10. nazri said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

    Power steering is also only available on the ELITE models.

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0M4ir16PB

    wow… power steering really luxury item for P2… hehe even cheaper car got power steering as standard now days…

    +side… 44k got 2 srs airbag, ebd, abs.. good2…

  11. Mathgrind said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:00 pm

    nothing special ponn •Perodua ViVA Elite EZi – RM44,900 baik beli saga BLM

  12. You’re Slimeball said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:02 pm

    Proton produces 150, 000 cars in a certain period. 100, 000 of the cars were sent back for repair in the first month.

    Perodua produces 50, 000 cars in the same period. Only 50 of the cars were sent back for repair in the first month. Why?

    Nobody bought the other 49, 950 cars!

    Kidding

  13. Hot!!! said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:04 pm

    Proton produces 150, 000 cars in a certain period. In the first month, 100, 000 of the cars were sent for repair.

    Perodua produces 50, 000 cars in a certain period. In the first month, 50 of the cars were sent for repair. Why?

    Because nobody wanted to buy the other 49, 950 cars

  14. Aizat said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:07 pm

    Front grille remide me to Nissan

  15. db8 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:09 pm

    the car is nice actually..but the price is the no-no part..

  16. hotwheeler said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    front grille is grand livina impul…saga 1.6 is just 39k…nice color tho, gives the elite feel

  17. BrakeFader said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    Not bad for Perodua. A real premium full spec for their lowest entry model. If only Proton Saga has a premium version with 4 power windows, dual airbags and ABS.

  18. Wak Rempit said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    45k for a cheapo… i have nothing positive to say about that.
    its your money… lu pikir lar sendiri.

  19. overflow said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:35 pm

    P2 em…

  20. unfairp2 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:36 pm

    Can anybody define “elite” here?

  21. Joe Camorra said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:37 pm

    mini-Alphard?

  22. jolly_idiot said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:40 pm

    Huh? I tot d viva 1.0 onwards have power steering? New 1 onli elite have power steer?

  23. cfa said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

    Elite cos paying RM45K for a small entry level 1.0L car.

  24. Caddilac Wong said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

    45k buy a Viva??? Izzit a joke???

  25. proton owner said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

    what so elite????
    no leather seat..
    just a cheap plastic…
    damn perodua

  26. Konnek said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:09 pm

    Mahal. Keta kecik tapi spec paling tinggi (Kononnya) diletak harga sampai RM44 ribu. Hampir menyamai Proton Persona Base Line yg harganya dgn viva elite ni cuma beza RM4 ribu lebih jer. Persona lagi besor.

  27. peYno said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:21 pm

    extra fog lamp,milo tin and fugly bumper=45k???

    better buy saga SE, 1.3l,leather seat,nice exterior

  28. peYno said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

    actually p2 had released viva SE (RM45k) a few years ago, but nobody want to buy it…now they change name to viva elite???
    prrrfthhhh

  29. PuakaNiangRapik said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

    BMW Elite , Mercedez Elite yes ..
    Viva Elite…. can wait for passenger at nikko hotel lobby ka ? hehehe

  30. The King said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

    Com on bot P1 and P2 , see all peoples comments? Actually, They re support both of you but they want the quality and little bit lower price. I know you can do. 45K for this viva ? noo…

  31. acerman said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

    Just another cosmetic changes. Perodua are getting worse. My wife’s new Viva rear window already got problem. Stuck!

  32. epal10 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

    premium spec based from their cheapest model.good marketing strategy

  33. dUg0nGnesSss said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:39 pm

    lol, no power upgrade,wat la pro2, satu lagi RnD bumper dari PRO2

  34. fastcx said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:42 pm

    “lu pikir baik-baik” quote tikus :P

    At that price, better get a saga se

  35. EricG said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:43 pm

    yeay! bought a MT elite week before launch. nvm la, im just a student la. cudnt afford to buy a better car. dont like saga, too bit. hehe

  36. schd said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:47 pm

    its look like the “smaller” version of TOYOTA INNOVA….hehe…nicer than P….and the Inpopular forXX

  37. i hate low quality car said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

    the grill is relly elite juz the grill the colour nah!!! juz give me the code i can paint all car with that colour even my grandma silvia s14 can paint that colour LOL..

  38. Kambing Laut said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:53 pm

    Add RM5700 and i can get buy 1 free 1 the BX model.
    Like pizza lah.

  39. TS.Lim said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:59 pm

    for me, i think the 1.0 AT ( non-elite ) is best value since it’s just cost around 36k only. last time it’s cost 40k. am i right??

    hehe….

  40. kimi_ said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

    The front grill looks like NISSAN SLYPHY one…..

    For this price better get BLM which GOT boot, 1.3L, bigger , stable when high speed, better looking than this CRAP!!!!!!

    This ELITE front looks is more suitable for a sedan or bigger car…LOL

    It looks weird on this mini car…the old one is more suitable and cute!!!!!!

  41. proud2bemalaysian said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 8:08 pm

    i think the saga se still the worth buying for…
    this viva elite just a nonsence makeover by p2…

  42. taboogen said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 8:20 pm

    front bumper remind me for those myvi owner wan M3 or M5 lookalike

  43. benzema said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 8:22 pm

    let’s see how far the comments can go. bet u its gonna be above a hundred.

    imho, the car actually looks nice if u see it in real. anyhow, the price quite pricey.

    believe it or not, try to compare the length dimension between viva and saga blm.

  44. sharviin said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 8:26 pm

    A mini Avanza, interior has no change so no buying lor…haizzz

  45. unfairp2 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 8:45 pm

    maybe after this we can see elite person driving dis car… ;-) . that’s why they called it VIVA ELITE. I think p2 should think other name than this cos it not ELITE enough, I think. Maybe Viva Premier or Viva Primer or….. but not Viva Elite la. Its not easy to naming your car just like that….. Nama menggambarkan personaliti…. bukan apa ada pada nama….pikir2kanlah!!

  46. takeo1070 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 8:48 pm

    whatever your coments are, this chic will sell…trust me

  47. mjoe said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:04 pm

    If it price below 30K then it is reasonable. 45K for viva will suck ur blood.

  48. cps said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:06 pm

    better get BLM or persona…

  49. Not Extremist said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:08 pm

    Perodua’s going down down..
    Even the most expensive Saga is more than RM3k cheaper than the Viva Elite EZi…

    Not to mention top up another RM2k you can get yourself a baseline Persona.

    With such premiums but no extra qualities to make up for that..
    Don’t blame me for having some weird perceptions on all the new Perodua’s owner… hehe

  50. Jr. racer said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:21 pm

    stupid facelift..
    rear bumper mcm myvi SE…there’s nothin’ new actually…juz copy n paste from other models..
    the H-line for viva elite should be 1.2L… but thumbs up for having ABS,airbags,EBD and BA…agak bagus la kot….even kembara pun xde bnde2 tu sume…

  51. howitzer said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:35 pm

    yeah.. define elite? w’out leather? with that tin can? damn…

  52. Gajen said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:36 pm

    This elite, the looks they took it from Toyota Isis mpv…the front is exactly the same…on ISIS it looks awesome cos its a mpv…but on a small car like this elite…not tht nice…

  53. csv said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:44 pm

    actually, i have found that if people want to buy cars with a budget of 50k and below, i think better to get 2nd hand cars that have more built into them.

    nevertheless, good move to intro a full spec model for their base model but the price needs revision.

  54. tokmoh said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:44 pm

    BrakeFader,

    If u want Saga with all those, get a persona H-line.

    A Saga with all those equipments will just kill persona b-line n m-line sales.

  55. rockett said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

    beli manual sudah….mao book ini kereta…rasa nk trade je satria buruk aku….no injection engine….kuat makan minyak….power windows stuck sebelah driver(menyusahkn aku)…bout price…boleh la..

  56. bugbear1986 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

    some1 should stop this…
    nowadays perodua become like proton’ize,
    and proton vice versa pulak…
    wat on earth is happening?
    is it the reason of perodua being number one in d market nw?

  57. john said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:49 pm

    look some like little brother avanza in some angle..

  58. kokwai said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

    Nice facelift, but not worth the price.

  59. Jason said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:52 pm

    lols. myvi better. or maybe sage SE.

  60. nabil said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 9:56 pm

    37k for this junk?? u gota be kidding me…looks like the facelifted avanza…defies logic

  61. land said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:10 pm

    p2 had to stop all this nonsense…why built many design for the same car!!!
    it will make ur money@car faster to be under value n look older coz ur car is going 2 b obsolute just b4 u can even pay half of the total loan installment!

  62. unfairp2 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:18 pm

    P2 no 2 last month, gubra kot???

  63. spoon said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:21 pm

    facelifted look like nissan livina……. well done……

  64. KS said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:25 pm

    what the hell is this? ViVa VIP after this?

  65. anj97 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

    New facelift?
    same crap
    too expensive
    worth only RM15k
    Gov protect perodua
    con raykat.goog for m’sia economy

  66. peYno said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

    perodua really in trouble and they can feel it now
    that’s why they come out the same thing
    viva elite– before was viva SE (nobody wanna buy)
    viva 660 basic(kancil replacement)- before was viva with 27k price

    next perodua MPV.. will be a myvi premium/SE killer..
    they kill their own model

  67. k.c said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:28 pm

    Not wort at all….

    1.0L manual, not air bags, no spoiler? Rm39k here….

    Wont consider it at all….

    RM37k with air bag and spoiler, may consider it….

  68. armandd said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:29 pm

    What i can say is that this moving metal box is ridiculously overpriced. Its door is no more then 2 inches thick, yet they sell for more than 35k. Sorry i have to say that i feel sorry for those who have bought this car. The new Saga is much much better in all aspects, except that rubber-like gearchange.Try driving the saga and viva at 120km/h and you’ll know the difference.

  69. peYno said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:29 pm

    this is not facelift.. this is bumper change with additional of fog lamp

  70. infinity said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:34 pm

    The normal viva looks like a mini-avanza..
    this viva elite looks like a mini-livina, especially the hood..haha

    anyway, i think it looks good…

  71. aghiff said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:35 pm

    another ’special edition’….

  72. mosha said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:45 pm

    patut la namanye elite…
    elite tuk owg berada la kete nie
    kete ni bukan tuk Rakyat Malaysia
    1.0L j harga cm 1.3L
    Myvi n saga blm lebey valueable for Rakyat Malaysia
    kete nie klu jual kt eropah boley la kot hehehehehhe
    tp P2 mane ley export sbb copy design toyota j
    maklum la P2 milik toyota hahahahaa

  73. lambov12 said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:47 pm

    which sucker in p2 thinks that they are building the car for the people ??

    dun buy this car. a piece of good consumer advice ..

  74. MyVISE said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:55 pm

    aiya….no buy this car…than buy what car?
    to me OK lar this kar…

  75. sionggee said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 10:55 pm

    front grill nampak macam Nissan Livina Impul Version, Bumper depan looks alike avanza….another scrap….better upgrade the engine side or comfort for the car….

  76. fauzi said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:05 pm

    for this small car you have to pay nearly 45k,i wonder at what price they going to put for their new mpv. better get P1 manual MPV or 2nd hand naza ria only around 40k.one more anybody know what happen their nautica i rarely see this SUV.

  77. szomiey—x_tech tchnlogy said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:07 pm

    waw dlm jak lawa mcm merc kali hahaah
    tp law da pnya interior leather bru cool
    apa lh…tu pn tra ble pkr mcm mw laku
    lw interoor mc sma cm mdel sblum ney
    pz 2 upgrde da pnya plyer with dvd lg
    bgs lw da gps bru mngncm oi
    ney hrp front grill jak bkilat..aperah hampe..
    …TP TA a pa lh kta urg MALAYSIA so bli lh brg buatan malysia heheheh
    support malaysa 8p

  78. MyVISE said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:08 pm

    aiyak…all bashing P2 kah?
    when P1 came out…then all bash P1..
    hehe…thats all we can do it Paul’s blog.

  79. the killer– said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:17 pm

    bgs ta ya g kuar ne elite front grill
    jak lawa interior sma jak hha hahah
    ta da leather ka d produa?? ta ckp bjet??
    g stu 2 plyr upgrde lh oi zmn skunk jrg dha urg dgr lgu
    pki cd ohoho tmbh r usb kha sd slot kha
    haiya damn perodua

  80. P2_permanent_basher said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:33 pm

    only stupid uneducated customer will pay 45k for this crap.
    ITS SMALL compared to SAGA.
    ITS OVERPRICED compared to SAGA and SAVVY
    Ringgit for a Ringgit, SAGA is a better buy
    Safety wise, SAGA and SAVVY is 100000000000000000 times better
    Finally P1=4 P2=Zero Egg.

    One thing I now appreciate abt proton, even though they made a small car , ugly one in fact, but they have the brains to make a very tough and safe car compared to p2.
    Kudos to p1!!!
    Hope that p2 will post a tremendous lost with this stupid sh*t!!!

  81. ejai perodua said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:39 pm

    kadang2 mcm kelakar baca komen kat atas. hakikatnya, keputusan membeli atau tak – 100 persen atas tangan pembeli.

    aku yakin, kalau betul pembeli beli kereta hanya disebabkan harga, patutnya proton dah lama potong perodua sejak diaorang ada saga blm dan persona. hakikatnya? tidak. perodua menjadi pengeluar kereta nasional no. wahid 3 tahun berturut2. ini bukan kehebatan perodua, tapi hasil keyakinan orang ramai terhadap jenama perodua.

    bukan semua orang nak beli kereta sedan yg besar macam bmw, persona dll. aku yakin, ramai kawan2 yang buat posting di atas, ada kawan, isteri, awek, adik, pak mertua yg kalau diberi keta persona, tak nak bawak.. besar sangat katanya..

    so, apa pilihannya? beli la viva. kalo kaya beli la smart for two..

    fikirkanlah.. jangan melemparkan tuduhan tidak berasas…

  82. zaac said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:41 pm

    what is this ? new?…somemore cost 44,900…

  83. syah said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:41 pm

    yuckssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss….. what the hell is that.. P2 adoi elite ??? think lol

  84. syah said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:45 pm

    BrakeFader said,

    yo lah tu… ader abs lah ape lah kecik lol kalau bujang pun aku tak sanggup lah bonet letak kasut futsal pun penuh, ape dah kene pikir jangka panjang beli kete abs,airbag ke ,power window ke kalau nak mati mati gak lbh lagi tak pakai tali pinggang keledar …. peace

  85. eddie said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

    now viva 1.0 Auto RM36900 ??, PAUL…last time viva 1.0 Auto need how much ? is it already reduce price to last time viva 1.0 manual ?

  86. hilangpunca said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:51 pm

    this is 4 people who already has merce s-class to go work, nissan gtr 4 weekend

  87. nmh said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:05 am

    better buy savvy lah. tis elite is not ugly but hideous

  88. roti naan1 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:21 am

    I like the chorme grille and the front lamps. The rest I don’t like….

  89. Zack said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:30 am

    I just buy viva premium last month, a bit frustrated becoz the door when close sound as ‘atap zink’. Its really hurt ur ears when u slam the door. I have to done threadening to minimize the atap zink sound. Hurt my wallet, hurt my ears and hurt my feeling. This viva so called elite with that kind of price tag, but if u close the door and sound like cheap…..so lu pikirla sendiri.

  90. aliBaPa said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:31 am

    The car is too small even with all of the features

    dangerous is still dangerous, nothing will change

  91. vezeroth said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:51 am

    Nearly vomited blood…..!
    P2 is a bloody blood sucker… this is unbelievable….! People first konon…..

  92. vezeroth said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 1:17 am

    Almost vomited blood…..! Ridiculous price… For the people konon..

  93. jinToncet said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 1:25 am

    what? rm3+k? better take SAGA BLM M-Line

  94. tiwasok said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 1:39 am

    EricG said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 7:43 pm

    yeay! bought a MT elite week before launch. nvm la, im just a student la. cudnt afford to buy a better car. dont like saga, too bit. hehe
    _____________________________________________________________________

    Just a student yet you can afford this overpriced car? With the same price you could have buy a better car… Seriously, are you really a student..
    Oh well, it’s your money..or should I say your parents money..lol

  95. person said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 1:49 am

    44k ??

    Stupid is the right word, as the price can buy a 1.3cc Myvi already.
    add about 2k and u got a premium.

  96. needtubowitvtecnsupacharged said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 1:50 am

    expensive!!! 40k for 1.0l car…can get EG and EK lah…or other big car wit turbo…
    tapi 2nd lah…
    and oso 40k can get 1+++cc superbike….
    40k oso can go to cuti2 n get high la…
    40k for 1.0l car???
    mengarut!!!

  97. vivaKing said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 1:52 am

    I tell ya, this viva has Better handling than Saga BLM, especially when high speed enter corner, can easily do 2-wheels stunt! exit corner is another story though..

  98. tamaki said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 2:09 am

    come on, a platform play many pattern eventually bored,ppl not fool anymore
    u cant play this trick forever

  99. LaparDodol said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 2:20 am

    TRUE!!! look like avanza mini-me, lets wait for JEREMY CLARCKSON make fun of those plastic thingy, haha… 25k for 660cc BX MT? wonder which is better/stronger, 8k tata nano 660cc or viva 660cc bx mt? saw crash test done by UK auto group…

    anyway, credits to the designer… they sell Malaysian DESIGN, not Malaysian car thou…

    n P2 just a car assembler, not car maker, understand that… just to sell car, need MOAR style, lol… people nowaday thing they r creative, but what the heck, not all creative things are better, some may be worst!!!

    hope Malaysian car maker should be more innovative, make car better, not just fancier, HUH!!!

  100. paparadzi said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 2:22 am

    “Only the ViVA 1.0 ELITE EZi gets a full load of safety features including dual SRS airbags for the front, ABS brakes, EBD and Brake Assist.”

    Finally, an entry-level car with decent safety features. I wish Saga could have these too.

  101. naruto said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 2:50 am

    Ayooooooooo another expensive crab from perodua…..good job guys!!!

  102. valandil said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:04 am

    small guy with high hopes…

    “When I grow up, I wanna be an Alphard”

  103. jiho21 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:44 am

    Elite as in you work like an elite only you are qualify to have this car in your garage. The requirement will be;

    Job title as CEO,5 figure pay check,have a bmw in your garage in order to have this WEEWAWA ELITE.

  104. Niv said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:47 am

    viva always a viva, the Word Elite wont make it a 5 Star car.
    peace.

  105. Automotive_Critics said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 6:50 am

    Nice makeover but safety? Did they add door safety bar which went missing before? If not if motorbike crash your door also can killed because it no worth other tin milo.

  106. azrai said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 7:42 am

    Wow..where’s Linda rafar, Abby Abadi, and Watie Elite? :-) So it is a mini me version of grand livina instead of Avanza before this? (Maybe for the front only.) They regroup the Viva to avoid product competition between themself. Anyway, it is overpriced. The SAGA is a better choice, RM39k for 1.6 red taxi version. Anyway, the rear bumpy looks so mismatch with the overall design. They stole Naza’s Suria a.k.a. Picanto’s rims didn’t they?

  107. windtunnelcar said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 7:50 am

    malaysia’s elite like that only? why no leather seats?

  108. techboy_88 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 7:58 am

    No more red and green and for Viva. Only silver, black, white and blue. Seriously, why Perodua no longer offer “cheerful colour options”?

  109. mokkf82 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:10 am

    Err… why they come out this car now? Penetrade for whom? Rather pick smaller Saga BLM. at least the size speak for money worth.

  110. Busy Reader said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:13 am

    Guys..
    Proton beat produa alredi..according to utusan…

    and also..read this
    “Beliau berkata, pihaknya berbangga kerana dapat membantu ramai usahawan tempatan turut serta di dalam membangunkan keretanya, sekali gus dapat mempelajari teknologi dan kepakaran asing bagi mengembangkan perniagaan mereka.

    Ini kerana katanya, ada di antara 150 usahawan yang terlibat dalam membekalkan peralatan dan komponen kepada Perodua turut menjadi pembekal kepada Proton.<—-

    “Ini adalah sebahagian usaha Perodua untuk bekerjasama dengan para vendor selain membawa teknologi serta kepakaran masuk ke negara mereka boleh mempelajari selok-belok perniagaan dengan warga asing,” katanya.”

    —So, Produa and Proton almost same par loh… use same vendor loh.. any idea? if produa user said, meevi and viva or p2 mpv better..he is a stupidos person loh.. same vendor mean the same quality..

  111. azrai said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:15 am

    I just notice the rear bumper design is taken from Kelisa SE. Recycle their mould now, cost cutting measures.

  112. Busy Reader said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:16 am

    from utusan also..
    “Viva Elite menjanjikan kenderaan yang menjimatkan penggunaan bahan api, mampu untuk diselenggarakan dan amat selesa dalam apa cara pemanduan,” tambah Syed Hafiz.

    –Errr..Mr Syed Hafiz use Viva everyday meh? i drive my friends Viva..not confident went try to take every corner.. terbalik oooo..

  113. Zool said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:22 am

    I bought my student son a Savvy. It is a much safer and better car. Made of High Tensile Steel. The Viva’s doors sound like “clang”.

  114. syah said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:30 am

    ask.. lah itu bos besar produa kalau nak pakai perodua car … mimpilah kalau nak pakai semua pakai keta mewah.. mane nak tau hati pengguna kan lol lah p2 nih modi sikit pas tu taruk logo kedai luar pun lagi lawa buat lol.

  115. mohdjiman said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:35 am

    WoW!!!ViVa Elite!!!!New ‘Design’!! NO!!!!

  116. EricG said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:36 am

    haiya we dont need big cars. if i have money, i would have opt form fiat 500 or better fiat abarth la. i dont like big car.

  117. p4k4bu said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:36 am

    Guys,

    It’s a very nice car befitting its name: ELITE.

    It should be used as official cars for the PM, MBs, CMs, MPs, ADUNs, directors and other government officials.

    Please support your #1 national car company “selama 3 tahun berturut-turut” — as claimed by somebody; not me ;-)

  118. sd said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:38 am

    Proton overtakes Perodua in total sales

    PETALING JAYA: Proton Holdings Bhd has overtaken Perusahaan Otomobil Kedua Sdn Bhd (Perodua) in total sales for the first time in three years by selling more vehicles in June.

    Malaysian Automotive Association (MAA) said Proton’s sales surged by 1,523 units in June over the previous month to regain market leadership as a result of more deliveries of its new Exora.

    The gap between the two national carmakers in recent months had been narrow and Proton leaped over Perodua, thanks to combination of higher sales of its Exora and the stopping of the sale and production of Perodua’s Kancil in June.

    For June, MAA said total sales were 45,211 units, a decline of 7.7% from 48,990 posted a year ago. Production fell 12.5% in June from a year ago.

    Sales, however, rose 2.9% from May. Passenger car sales in June fell to 41,109 units from 44,637 units sold in June 2008.

    On the outlook for July, MAA said sales volume was likely to improve.

    It expects production of cars to increase to reduce the waiting period for buyers.

    MAA added that orders for popular models had increased as the current positive environment had improved consumer confidence.

  119. Flying solo said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:43 am

    when buying a car, of course the price will be our main concern. but think about it, what’s the use of buying a cheaper car but the engine or performance is so bad? i would rather spend money to buy something expensive than buy something cheaper but at the end of the day, u still have to spend more for the maintenance cost. (this explains why people send their Proton cars for services in the very 1st month -> Proton produces 150, 000 cars in a certain period. 100, 000 of the cars were sent back for repair in the first month. Perodua produces 50, 000 cars in the same period. Only 50 of the cars were sent back for repair in the first month. Why? — because P2 cars are well known for their good performance :-)
    p/s I own a Myvi SE. Fantastic! Go test drive la, then baru komen!!

  120. muryadi said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:44 am

    cantik tapi mahal sangatlah… lagipun duit banyak dapat ke Toyota/Daihatsu.. not so much for our country….

  121. dextrous said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:55 am

    in my point of view,dis is nice, but the size just not for me.
    the prize also a bit pricey, so no for me…

  122. MycarMylife said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:57 am

    Year in year out we MY drivers get crap from these so called carmakers or copycats emulating to Japs marketing strategy and unfortunately we always fall for it bigger lights, bumpers ,this and that.
    Please be a real carmaker and give us drivers something to pine for like those from Germany or Italy.
    New model !!!!! shiiish

  123. g-mie said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:01 am

    urmm better than ViVA 660BX.. hehe~

  124. Benz83 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:03 am

    Spec…good, Look…acceptable, Price…sorry, 44k is too expensive for such car, better get a Myvi premium spec at 49k

  125. KaiMun said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:11 am

    to me this car is very very much overprice!!!!
    how much is a std myvi now?
    by paying this price just because of the mod?
    worth it?
    well is all depend on individual..
    to me “premium” doesn’t look/feel such way…
    at least improve on the stability, comfort, noise suppression, low FC but more torque… tats is what the meaning of “premium” over the std..

  126. wuttaheck said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:14 am

    hilangpunca said,
    July 23, 2009 @ 11:51 pm

    this is 4 people who already has merce s-class to go work, nissan gtr 4 weekend

    —–

    and this crap for what exactly? pigi pasar mlm ka?
    haha!

  127. MBX Boy said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:23 am

    Do you think that people who buys a Viva cares much about safety?
    Is there any other reasons to install airbags other than as a marketing strategy?
    Can P2 please crash test this vehicle? People need to know that for a vehicle to earn good crash test ratings, it is mainly determined by the strength of the car body and how well-designed the frame is (to absorb the forces in a well distributed manner during crash). If it’s anything below 2 stars, seriously, airbags are quite useless.

    See some videos for yourself:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPYHC0hk-P4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amFJwdg7O1E

  128. i want another car… said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:23 am

    i’d rather buy a 10yr old civic for that price. even then… segan! work hard work hard, and gov’t forces us to buy cars that are at heart… crap. no amount of embellishment will improve something that is crap. it will stink no matter what.

  129. BB said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:24 am

    i always compare p1 & p2, the p2 is actually getting models which fix into its market strategy, unlike p1’s juara, tiara, and even satria neo which do not bring any profit in return. worse still, p1 cant even do proper facelife such as waja look uglier than b4! p2 has done a good job for its models: this elite viva facelife is a good example. no wonder p2 become taiko now…

  130. scottloeb said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:30 am

    Car for rich chics lah, the amoi, lenglui, ah so, anak datok who got money but dad says “don’t show off too much, people will know my corruption or boys will date you for money” or guys with less brain. You add few K you can get a Myvi (if you hate sedan/long car or Proton). Don’t talk abt 2nd hand carwhich may lead to bad loan rates, shorter loan tenure, potential of high maintenance and unknown history that will drive people to this car. But I rather drive home the boat (Myvi) than be seen in one of these. I can stand Kelisa but not these crap. But not the aweks. They want a trouble free car, easy to drive (means can do u turn everywhre), easy to park (in the middle of 2 car park), and can be driven like a yamaha (in between lanes during jams). Tin can, no noise proof? usb connector will do by blasting Pussycat dolls or Lady Gaga. handling, what handling? This car got door handle what.

    Proton, do you want to know why your car might not be considered by these aweks? because the character of the engine is suitable for long distance, not city driving. Correct that and you might get a winner. Plus, reduce the machoistic elements in the car (sword type handbrake? gimme a brake hah). Hire more lady designer who know the importance of vanity mirror or shoe tray. Take a cue from Vitz (JDM Yaris) for savvy replacement, and you’ll win the next city car battle. Don’t go and fight Gorgom or Godzilla again, please I beg you. Even Fiesta go the great length, and Volvo leads that in that sense as well.

  131. amarjie said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:42 am

    Flying solo said,

    bro…

    where the hell on eartj that you get your statistic lah..?

    out of 150k,, blah.. blah.. blah got sent to bengkel…

    sembang like you know evrything…

  132. majavaz said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:45 am

    BB… oooo like that arr?.. very clever lah you..

  133. lai said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:46 am

    can P2 people produce some accessories 4 kancil(old n new model) also, tkkan buat brg baru ble, tp brg lama plak…..

  134. john jenin said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:49 am

    rm44k topspec..?

    gile hapa rege mahal utk k-car… P2 mmnglar potng kepla.
    patutla belaja rege cam korea smpi skang still improving kualliti dan rege yg rendah.

  135. ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:50 am

    How much P1 pay you all for bashing job? Good idea but stupid strategy. Is this the best you can do to help kereta jenama Proton naik??

    As a consumer; tell me other name selain Proton and Perodua that bulit for Malaysian. nenek2, mak2 and your family mesti akan pakai these car. you all can talk only and make stupid comment above… but the actual fact.. you all plus Paul Tan contradicting yourself…

    Shame on you…..

    The easiest way to show you are good is to make other People stupid!!!!!

    Please Paul…. you should be the good example to help rakyat malaysia think to support Malaysia products. Many Malaysian depending with P1 & P2… You should be the guidance to 1Malaysia as well. Bukan cara cari makan like this. make issue so people will come to your blog… if you need job or business, this is not the way you should do. Ramai Motoring commentors now buat keje coz want business. and not because they have passion on it.

    All MALAYSIAN PEOPLE and PAUL TAN’s WORKERS, please STOP THIS from now!!!

    PAUL TAN will not have this blog if he is a clever person. He suppose to be an engineer and build a car that can fit the people expectation.

    Think about it..

  136. majavaz said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:53 am

    scottloeb… can you give me the list of successful female designer?.. handling= door handle?.. lol

  137. Paul Tan said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:55 am

    @ProtonUndercover What issue are you accusing me of creating? Bashing job? Proton and Paul Tan workers? Contradicting myself? I’m getting a headache figuring out what you are accusing me of. Must be because I’m not as smart as an engineer.

  138. neg7 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:04 am

    expensive… elite ezi nearly same price with sayy 1.2amt hline.. dis bibah, just drive over 110km/h and u will feel like naik sampan instead of car … for 44900… rubbish!!!

  139. initial R said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:04 am

    Waktu P1 keluar SE, ada P2 fan cakap mahal, tak cantik, dalam buruk dll. Sekarang P2 keluar Elite. Stupid, bodoh, banggang, baghal mahal nak mampus, buta tuli, kedarah duit pembeli. Cuba kira, enjin 1.0, dalam sama cam viva lain, tak ada lether seat, tukar bumper nak ala2 alphard harga RM45k. Banggang. Sekurangnya saga kuarkan SE 1.3 tu lagi bagus dari Elite.
    http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/07/new-proton-saga-se-in-showrooms-from-15th-august/#comments
    Sila compare dari segi saiz, enjin, spec, muatan, keselesaan, pemanduan, semua pergi ke Saga & Savvy. Viva nie bukan tin milo tapi dah jadi tin sardin.
    Ada yg nak tengok teruk mana viva kalau kemalangan kan ?.
    http://www.pgx.com.my/2009/07/kemalangan-jalan-raya-di-saratok-pada-5-julai-2009/
    http://ondscene.my/2009/02/23/setiausaha-maut-viva-rempuh-lori/
    nie plak Saga accident ngan impreza
    http://www.ehoza.com/v4/forum/x-files-mistery-amazing/32106-kecelakaan-saga-blm.html
    fikir le sendiri lepas tengok kabin saga & viva…. ok

  140. madimat said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:05 am

    to ProtonUndercover,
    what’s wrong with you man? You know nothing then just shut up la bro.
    duhhh!

    to Mr PaulTan, just continue with what you’re doing sir , which is to give a first-hand, fair and balanced review on cars be it local or international makes. One disrecpectful person, but there are hundred of thousands others who are supportive of you.

    .peace!

  141. ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:06 am

    Paul and Other Bloggers,

    Can you telling me what kind of car that will be the best to fit Malaysian People?

    Give me a good answer. i will salute you if you could give me one. (which i doubt so you can do it).

    So dont make people stupid la bro.

  142. AlfaRomeo=Ferrari’sCousin said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:08 am

    Hai ya people, cool lah! P2 DO NOT force u all to buy the car, so why make noise on the pricing!! If u think the Elite is expensive, so buy the cheaper & less fancy Viva, rite?? After all, the Viva range starts from RM24900, read carefully lah next time. Dont simply bash.

    And to ProtonUndercover, Paul NEVER force u to read this blog!!!!!
    Paul, dont be dishearteaned. I’m behind you (and I believe the other thousands of readers also behind you!!)

  143. kereta said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:11 am

    to ProtonUndercover
    ???
    peace!

  144. wilsbrother said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:11 am

    almost like city front , at the same time quite looks like mini nissan livina with impul front. haha good work P2 keep it up!!!!!!! but abit expensive, just add 5k you can get a premium myvi.

  145. Paul Tan said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:11 am

    I’m sure the answer you are looking for is Proton and Perodua but people are entitled to their own choices if they have a budget that allows them other cars.

    I simply posted a story about the Viva Elite along with photos of every important angle I thought possible. Whatever people comment is really out of my control. Please tell me which part of my story “makes people stupid” as you mentioned?

    You think I don’t worry all the time that if the comments get ugly it will turn other people off from visiting this site?

    But you are also free to say what you want about the product as long as it is not an attack on someone else others if their opinion differs from yours.

  146. gugusan melur said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:13 am

    another perodua bibah sembelit hahahaha

  147. initial R said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:13 am

    ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:50 am

    ——————————————————————-
    Salah seorang orang dalam P2 dah bersuara dengan nada marah…. hahaha… takut sales viva drop @ hilang kerja…. hahahaha… P2 cuba terima hakikat yang sales dah drop pasal jual harga mahal tak padan ngan kereta. Nak nama kereta nasional tapi cekik duit pembeli dalam diam….

  148. AlfaRomeo=Ferrari’sCousin said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:16 am

    To ProtonUndercover, i CANNOT tell you which car that will be best to fit the Malaysian people, coz TEPOK POKET TANYA SELERA LAH BRO!!!
    BUT……I thing I can tell u though, please get out from this forum. U are making other people sick with your comments….

  149. initial R said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:17 am

    To PT…

    just ignore this stupid brainless man….. just continue what are u doing now…
    :) peace

  150. rexis said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:18 am

    omg paul, nice pic but, put it at separate link coz I am on 256MB RAM… X_x

    Since this is just a transport with 4 wheels, I would just opt for the cheapest Auto.

    So what should I get as first car? Myvi or Viva? Hmmm hmm hmm hmm hmm…

  151. initial R said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:19 am

    What car suit with malaysian ppl ?. tanya le poket rakyat malaysia apa yang mereka mampu bodoh…..

  152. ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:20 am

    Hahahahhaa… see. Now people can seee who are the people that i’m talking about…..
    Madimat/initial/Alfa Romeo (betul ke).

  153. theanswer said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:23 am

    tp P2 mane ley export sbb copy design toyota j
    maklum la P2 milik toyota hahahahaa

    ish..kau nih..nampak sgt x rajin wat reseacrh. myvi dieksport ke indonesia menggunakan name sirion(tapi design myvi msia) dan dijual jual juge di uk(kt uk pun ade subaru justy & daihatsu sirion).

  154. Paul Tan said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:23 am

    I have the IP addresses of the users you’re referring to and they are all logging on from different IPs, if that is what you’re referring to.

  155. scottloeb said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:24 am

    Paul, jgn layan dia lah. We all behind you. that guy is an idiot. And I can proof that I’m not under paul payroll. Because I received in USD. We whack everyone here lah. Even Honda/Toyota/Hyundai/Naza all got whack one. dont worry, all eqally deserved.

    Majavaz,
    check for Paul previous posting on Ford Fiesta concept. And Volvo YCC is designed b y a team of lady designer. Lots of Ikea product are form lady designer. I personally think that for interior, the car need to have some ladies touch. But the exterior can be as macho as Camaro, but practicality sometimes rule. Myself, a victim of G2 interior. And Rita, you should have done better cos I believe you can. Dugong shapes like a poo (for me lah) but its interior is reasonable. Who can find fault with 6 to 8 cupholder in a car, a cue form Vitz/Yaris? Livina shape suites uncle and makcik but its interior is pleasant to the eyes and fingers. And feminine features is a strong marketing factor as well.

  156. SUJAC said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:27 am

    elite mean extra cost for small car – SAGA is more cheaper for better spec. GO SAGA! GO SAGA!

  157. theanswer said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:27 am

    ignore je la ape2 comment yg berbentuk provokasi ok. ni blog automotif..kite bagi komen2 yg bernas.pada siape yg marah2 tuh..cool la sket k sbb kite taw yg marah2 nih dlm blog je nampak garang..kalau btul kuat; x kn marah dlm blog jer kn…dlm internet adik aku pon bleh kerek2. so..chill~

    *mmg p2 mempertaruhkan advantage enjin dvvt dlm menjual kereta p2. aku pandu myvi n saga blm dlm mase yg same..jadi ade beza baik buruk kdue2 kereta.

  158. aminrullrashed said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:28 am

    keta kecik tapi mahal,,,rugi la klu beli,,,

  159. ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:29 am

    Dear PT,

    Thank you for your explanation. P1 & P2 and plus all car in the world including ALFA ROMEO and INITIAL D have PROs and CON’s.

  160. Know! said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:34 am

    mahalnye!!!

    Proton Saga 1.6 baru RM38K..

  161. initial R said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:36 am

    ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:20 am

    —————————————————————–
    I don’t care what u talk about. Paul is Paul, i get my pay by my business. Don’t ask how much but maybe way more than you per month. Paul do his review & for us we give comment. if u not like, u can go to hell out here.

  162. milo said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:39 am

    klu nk cmpe p2 ngan proton, aQ rse bttr g p2, p2 pnye produc x byk problem…price murah.. but comng sOn..byk problem..tepuk dada tnye selare..; )

  163. kimi_ said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:40 am

    PAUL, i will always behind and support you…

    To protonundercover, dude you are so rude and shut up if you know nothing pls…..

    Which car suitable for all malaysian? FUNNY question….3 years old boy can answer

    If i as a middle class people, sure will consider national car coz it is cheap,cheap spare parts…

    BUT if got extra money, ALL also want to buy the japan,korea car lah …nicer,prestige, looks more high status, show off…..this is typical MALAYSIAn

  164. madimat said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:42 am

    I am really sad la Mr PaulTan,

    This weblog should be a good place for auto industrialist, motoring enthusiasts and people who appreciate reliable source of information regarding motoring trends and highlights to refer and learn something, but somehow it has becoming a favorite place for some hooligans to hang around, spread false rumours and inciting hatred, mencarut , caci maki and all those kinds of stuff.

    Looking at some of the comments from your users make me wonder if I should allow my young son to come to this comment page. Maybe you need to put a disclaimer like ” Warning : Explicit Content” or “For Grown Up, Matured Audience Only”. heh heh. Just kidding ;-)

    But in reality you can’t stop people from writing what they think.
    Sigh. …that is the price of freedom of speech and expression.

    .peace to all PaulTan readers!

  165. initial R said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:49 am

    Can rate 18PG hehehe…. just joking :)

  166. aifah said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:50 am

    Kau orang semua pergi le berduyun beli viva ni. Lepas 6 bulan berduyun pulak buat aduan:

    1. Lepas satu satu lagi tingkap otomatik tak boleh guna. suis rosak. Vendor bekalkan substandard suis dan perngurusan perodua tak sampai hati nak reject.
    2. Buka pintu belakang dari dalam sebab tak boleh buka dari luar bila kereta terjemur dipanas
    3. Handle pintu terkangkang habis macam nak patah bila nak buka
    4. Enjin bergegar macam nak mati bila buat reverse. Service advisor kata “ini memang charasteristik DVVT. Bagi malu teknologi aje.
    5. Dashboard bertukat warna
    6. Tray bawah tempat duduk penumapng depan terpaksa guna superman untuk tarik
    7. Poket tepi boleh masuk sekeping majalah nipis sahaja. Side pocket apa namanya.
    8. Bila hantar servis, dia orang kempen jual sound insulator untuk hood dan sponge murah untuk tutup sebelah dalam boot yang togel.
    9. Setiap kali servis, perodua tukar bateri connector kerana berkarat. Dia orang tak cuba atasi masalah tu…entah overcharge kerana cut out tak betul ke atau bateri tak sesuai dengan output alternator ke. Dia orang apa peduli. Yang kena bayar pengguna bodoh macam kita .

    Kecuali penukaran suis, yang lain servis advisor merapu bagi alasan.

    Sebab tu le perodua jual model 1 lit AT bawah RM37,000 sedangkan dulu RM40,000 plus.

    Dah beli baru kau orang faham apa yang aku tulis ni.

  167. utuh said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:04 am

    I cannot agree more on the price and the substandard quality of parts supplied by the local vendor. Malaysia boleh maaa.

    The other day, my friend’s viva got scratched. You know what lies underneath the sparking paint…MILO.

    Another friend’s car was hit by a kid’s bicycle and to his suprise, his front door was dented so bad that he had to change the whole door.

    The doors and panelling are so thin that whenever you close the door, you hear “peng” instead of the usual “dup” sound. No wonder Viva could brag that its car is so economical.

  168. p1basher said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:07 am

    i always wonder why viva elite so pricey. it makes no sense for people who buying it, as in the range, blm, savvy, myvi and persona are there. wat so premium if it was a small budget car afterall and u can get bigger car from that range.

  169. knoxx said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:09 am

    Macam nie lah.. dari segi business strategik, perodua kurang hasilkan model baru dalam tahun lepas dan juga tahun ni berbanding proton. sebagai pesaing kepada syarikat automotive, perodua juga mahu mendapatkan jualan produk mereka. maka mereka reproduce semula viva dalam versi lain bagi mendapatkan pembeli dan juga menaikkan keuntungan saham syarikat. untuk menghasilkan dan mempromosikan produk baru agak sukar dalam tahun ini memandangkan mereka terpaksa menunggu model baru dari Toyota…

    Sebab tu, kebanyakan model produa perubahan tidak drastik. Kerana mereka bergantung kepada model luar dahulu untuk sampai ke Malaysia.

    Ulasan saya dari segi Business je.. dari segi teknikal saya tak tau lah. Kamu semua lagi expert dari saya.. peace all..

  170. Fiziks said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:14 am

    45k is not a small sum of money seriously for this tin can car.

  171. adieyjb said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:18 am

    ape lah korang nih… grand livina la,avanza la… maner ader samer…

    da tntu viva nih sama dengan daihatsu avy rs.. tak caye pegi la search .. perodua n daihatsu samer jer..

  172. Busy Reader said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:22 am

    ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:50 am

    How much P1 pay you all for bashing job? Good idea but stupid strategy. Is this the best you can do to help kereta jenama Proton naik??

    As a consumer; tell me other name selain Proton and Perodua that bulit for Malaysian. nenek2, mak2 and your family mesti akan pakai these car. you all can talk only and make stupid comment above… but the actual fact.. you all plus Paul Tan contradicting yourself…

    Shame on you…..

    —-

    I’m using CR-V … because i can pay for it..and also safety features that CR-V have.. but this so called ELITE, make me angry loh..why? Overpriced and no safety… yeah, it is better than motorcycle..so, between rm10,000-rm15,000 ok loh… unless this car use high tensile high steel, so i’m more confident to buy for my ehemm ehemmm..
    for P2, please provide Crash test Video for use.. or your Viva will become NAUTICA..

  173. memeranglaut said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:24 am

    wow..anybody who bash perol dua is getting paid by Paul tan? Mr. Paul where is my pay check? demm…Paul tan now are soo rich la…300 something comment, need to pay for each ka?
    hahaha..funny la you Protonundercover,
    pleaselah. We all give our comment on how cekik darah is Perol Dua nowday. I am not getting a single sen from Paul Tan but I am happy to critic perol dua for free. I drive a perodua…so what. i drive them..i bash them good. Even proton also sometime need to be bash and critic so that they will learn from their mistake.
    Bibah Elite…new addition to Kumpulan Elite perhaps?

  174. Min said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:24 am

    Joke car. 40k for a car-load of cheap plastic.

  175. Omanjedi said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:29 am

    Paul,

    I’m also clueless on what ProtonUndercover wants to say. Anyway-ignore it. Perodua still going to be a blood sucking Malaysian company which act on behalf the Jap.If the Yen is getting higher/ wait for the car to more ridicilously priced.

    44K is too much for such a small car. Why should Malaysian deserve this? One of the cause of high death toll on Malaysian road is bcoz of all stupid car pricing. The middle income group are stuck with all these unsafe car. The goverment personnel is answerable to God on this.

  176. Wak Rempit said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:40 am

    ProtonUndercover said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 9:50 am

    Mak ko tak ajar adab ke?

    Paul post artikel lepas tu korang bagi komen, suka ker… tak suka ker.. terpulang pada individu.

    Untuk pengetahuan ko dalam blog ni semua kereta boleh kena kutuk lar, Toyota/Honda/BMW pun kena komen bukan P2 ajer.

    Kalo nak bukti cuba bukak artikel mazda3, kereta tu kena kutuk bagai nak gila walaupun kereta tu hebat (Mazda commercial break)… hehe

    Site ni bukan untuk cari makan macam yang ko tuduh tu, bukan berat sebelah macam Utusan Malaysia bro… hahaha

    Terima kenyataan lar P2 tu mcm hantu raya hisap darah rakyat malaysia… Ada ka patut kereta bodo mcm tu juai sampai 45k!! tambah lagi sikit boleh dapat Persona B-line!!! (Proton commercial break)… :)

    Aku xnak cakap byk kat sini cuma satu jer aku nak nasihat… kalo ko xder apa2 yg positif untuk ditambah dalam blog ni…. get the Fuck outa here!! we don’t need people like you coming here… at least the rest of P2 fans are not sore losers and accepts criticism and I salute them.

    P2 fans…. peace

    Just my 2 cents

  177. epol said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:45 am

    lantak hang laa p2 hang nak charge berape harge kete hang. make sure profit tu pergi kat rakyat balik, jgn hang buta buta bagi kat mamat jepun bawak balik profit. aku nak abs dgn asn aku dpt dividen 20% tahun ni!

  178. kreko said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:52 am

    stupid p2 engineer, no idea to design ka? RnD only know smoking, hanging out, sleeping, redesign smaller part…

    send those engineer for training laa, dun let their ass become bigger, thou we know that malaysian always like to change facelift because dun want to avoid warranty n no money, but at this kind of price? haiya… only for stupid elite who wanna look good eh?

    very2 stubborn one, p2 shud hav their own initiative to ensure more quality bodypart n more performance but with proper price. u take a lap in this viva, then ktang! ktang! sound came from below. u close ur door n then kting! a hollow sound appear. after a while, need to adjust the door, then send for service for the shaft, then change bearing.

    but spare part so cheap, come from china, then on the road always want to look good, at fast lane at 120km/h, stubborn thou after others gave a high beam. adoi!

    overall, too pricey…

  179. milo said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:09 pm

    pasal price viva ni kite x leh nk salah p2 gak.. memang price spatutnye lebih murah..40k Or 35k kbawah tp govement control smua2..

  180. EYESORE said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:10 pm

    ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:29 am

    Dear PT,

    Thank you for your explanation. P1 & P2 and plus all car in the world including ALFA ROMEO and INITIAL D have PROs and CON’s.

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0M98LPM06
    —————————————————-

    Don’t tell me u r mistaking Initial D (japanese anime) as a car brand… roflmao… pls go start learning about automotive industry again…

  181. jonlabi said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:19 pm

    I am hoping to see more seasonably priced small car sold in malaysia. The viva is a decent car, but it is priced the same as in Japan (mira avy) but with a lot less equipment and parts quality…

    Wish to see more cars like the Renault Dacia Logan, a car similar to the Proton Saga BLM , but with a price tag of just RM20K, despite being built in Europe.

    The Viva Elite EZi to me should be priced 8-10K less than perodua’s selling price.

    As for the Saga, most of my friends that uses the saga has problems/failures with the IAFM module. And proton still keeps quiet about it…

    As for those who wants to post their comments, do give constructive ones, not bashing… We are asians who are famed as courteous right?

  182. azuraSE said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:26 pm

    mahalnyer viva ni ek. da la kecik…xpadan dgn harge. patutnya keta2 buatan malaysia ni harganya dari range 20k ke 40k je. baru padan dgn taraf idup kat malaysia ni. haha..pastu leh la kerajaan lupuskan keta yg lebih 10 tahun.ikut cth cam jepun xleh ke? cam singapore ke…bisnes sentiasa ader. :p peace…

  183. wochomi said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:30 pm

    Why price the little off the reasonable amount? Well, because they need to drive big cars, big house, and shit big. Because they also want untung mah…. untung lebih-lebih… afterall malaysians are a sorry bunch who are being suppressed by AK47 suppresor all this while… to make those Elites richer. That’s why call Viva Elite.

  184. memeranglaut said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:35 pm

    Omanjedi,
    don’t blame gov on this unsafe car. Blame the Perol Dua. They assemble it. They could installed passive protection for the car. (some say the side beam collision bar omitted, is that true?). They could at least be responsible by using high tensile steel (or Ultra high tensile steel) to built one such used in Proton. Then install the proper collision bar and not paip besi stick on front engine bay. Come on lah, it the life of malaysian is that cheap.They are the one who manufacturer it, why blame gomen?

    aifah,
    . Lepas satu satu lagi tingkap otomatik tak boleh guna. suis rosak. Vendor bekalkan substandard suis dan perngurusan perodua tak sampai hati nak reject.= sure or not? It a toyota in disguise. perol dua is high quality what…joking only aifah.
    2. Buka pintu belakang dari dalam sebab tak boleh buka dari luar bila kereta terjemur dipanas= New innovation perhaps. Maybe they all pasang thermostat for this features.
    3. Handle pintu terkangkang habis macam nak patah bila nak buka= Good what, Gajah, Rimau, senang nak masuk.
    4. Enjin bergegar macam nak mati bila buat reverse. Service advisor kata “ini memang charasteristik DVVT. Bagi malu teknologi aje.= don’t know …my kelisa also the same. Wait..mine is without DVVT. how come?
    5. Dashboard bertukat warna= good what. New features. Innovation, you get new renovation into your dashboard. Takla kaler itam aje sepanjang masa.
    6. Tray bawah tempat duduk penumapng depan terpaksa guna superman untuk tarik= exercise a bit la…good for your muscle.
    7. Poket tepi boleh masuk sekeping majalah nipis sahaja. Side pocket apa namanya.= Side pocket buat lawak namanya.
    8. Bila hantar servis, dia orang kempen jual sound insulator untuk hood dan sponge murah untuk tutup sebelah dalam boot yang togel.= mine too…anway not much differentlah if you really install one of those.
    9. Setiap kali servis, perodua tukar bateri connector kerana berkarat. Dia orang tak cuba atasi masalah tu…entah overcharge kerana cut out tak betul ke atau bateri tak sesuai dengan output alternator ke. Dia orang apa peduli. Yang kena bayar pengguna bodoh macam kita .= No komen. I services my car outside. =Cheaper and faster.

  185. zulkien said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:44 pm

    wah!
    nice job PERODUA!

  186. bax said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:52 pm

    THE QUALITY INSIDE STILL NOT CHANGE!!
    My gf bought Premium one
    U will feel like driving a tin on the road…all those cheap plastic inside the car
    SOooooooooooooo Regret….

  187. thinktank said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 1:27 pm

    I wouldn’t mind at all if P2 rebadge the latest Daihatsu Coure/Sirion as the Elite. I see no eliteness of this edition anyway other than some modifications that can be done by any accesories shop. If perodua is serious about their tagline of building cars people first, they would have offered much more for the price they are asking. P2 is starting to rip off consumers again…cheap plastics & overprice piece of metal

  188. izam77 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 2:03 pm

    klu tgk dlm pic area dpn car 2 mcm toyota alphard la…hahaha

  189. gOnDoLa said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 2:41 pm

    MyVISE said,

    July 23, 2009 @ 11:08 pm

    aiyak…all bashing P2 kah?
    when P1 came out…then all bash P1..
    hehe…thats all we can do it Paul’s blog.

    ———

    Actually we all before this were a p2 supporter and p1 Basher. But after stupid action by p2 producing low quality car with tooo expensive car we currently supporting P1. bye2 p2. P1 is too far beyond ahead of u now.

  190. p4k4bu said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 2:44 pm

    Just went to see the ELITE at a local (Medan Gopeng, Ipoh) Perodua dealer.

    Not bad, looks as good as the photos. Of course the price is … erm… subjective ;-)

    Got free door gift some more. If you book today, can get hamper some more :D Not sure whether it’s the same for all dealers, though. :-(

  191. kei9 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:17 pm

    Well, Malaysia is one of the most expensive country to own a car.

    Some might have no choice but to buy one with these basic quality and specs.

    To those who hang out here to talk nonsense, please get your head straight. :)

  192. pentol said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:23 pm

    nice look, but it is just a normal cosmetic change that for so many years already develop by other car maker for a short leadtime…. oem ‘brothers accesories’ practice….

  193. asz:Orkid said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

    cantik….tp mahal ket la

  194. MUX said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:46 pm

    korang sume tau nk kutuk je.
    kalau nk bagus sgt xpyah beli viva..

  195. DtG said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:54 pm

    i used to admire perodua’s strategy of offering wide arrays of small car packages but they have been rather extortionate of late… 45k for a full spec viva? now that’s a bit dumb as you can get a full spec saga, basic persona and full spec non SE myvi around that price… what do they think the viva is? some sort of automotive icon like the beetle or the cooper? yet people will still buy it and those p2 directors will be laughing their asses all the way to the bank…

  196. p2_permanent_basher said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

    ProtonUndercover is WASTED and OWNED in this forum. lol….

  197. MUX said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

    kepada sesiape yg rase saga BLM lg murah pegi beli saga la..
    bagi tempoh enam bulan je kat owner saga ni..
    tau tak, proton mengunakan material paling murah dalam penghasilan saga..
    so no wonder la harga saga murah..
    biar mahal sikit janji puas hati..
    so go viva go..!!

  198. Philippecr said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

    Common lar u guys, new local car release only know how to bash. BLM come out bash Milo tin. Persona come out bash cheap plastic interior… Myvi come out bash big ass no power.

    The most important one should be the Car Tulang. They made the body soft becos for Pedestrian Safety! u mau langgar mati orang or ur car kemek? and for the sake of ur safety as well to absorb power when collision.

  199. saki77 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 4:46 pm

    To MUX..sila bg detail dan bukti atas dakwaan anda..boleh kongsi di sini…
    If its only hearsay, then u know la what kind of person r u…

  200. nazri said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:11 pm

    sedihnya cuma viva elite je yang ada power steering… yg lain no power steering.. +side.. ada 2 airbag, abs, ebd.. active safety system…

    passive safety system takde memandangkan viva pnye side beam, front beam kecik cenonet jer… peace…

  201. bmpower said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:21 pm

    I give this VIVA an award.

    WTF car of the year.

    somemore award..

    GTH car of the year.

    regards.

  202. Wiwa sucks! said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:25 pm

    EYESORE said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 12:10 pm

    ProtonUndercover said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:29 am

    Dear PT,

    Thank you for your explanation. P1 & P2 and plus all car in the world including ALFA ROMEO and INITIAL D have PROs and CON’s.

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0M98LPM06
    —————————————————-

    Don’t tell me u r mistaking Initial D (japanese anime) as a car brand… roflmao… pls go start learning about automotive industry again…

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MAMVwagG
    ————————————-
    LOL! I noticed that too, he’s a perodua fanboy!! :D

  203. anak melayu said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:28 pm

    Patutnyer kete lagi murah…zaman ekonomi meleset niee…tlglah anak bangsa kita….ok

  204. naruto said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

    haha…kinda funny when i read the newspaper today…they claimed its build from 80% local parts..bla bla bla….45k elite varians…haaa?? make me want to laugh some more hahahahaha

  205. nazri said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

    kepada sesiape yg rase saga BLM lg murah pegi beli saga la..
    bagi tempoh enam bulan je kat owner saga ni..
    tau tak, proton mengunakan material paling murah dalam penghasilan saga..
    so no wonder la harga saga murah..
    biar mahal sikit janji puas hati..
    so go viva go..!!

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MAU70wKS

    ye ke? aku dah setahun lebih la… saga blm pakai high tensile steel la… p la cek balik…

  206. initial R said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:39 pm

    MUX said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

    kepada sesiape yg rase saga BLM lg murah pegi beli saga la..
    bagi tempoh enam bulan je kat owner saga ni..
    tau tak, proton mengunakan material paling murah dalam penghasilan saga..
    so no wonder la harga saga murah..
    biar mahal sikit janji puas hati..
    so go viva go..!!

    —————————————————————-
    To Mux… sila tengok post aku nie kalau nak kutuk saga banding ngan viva…

    initial R said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 10:04 am

    Sila compare dari segi saiz, enjin, spec, muatan, keselesaan, pemanduan, semua pergi ke Saga & Savvy. Viva nie bukan tin milo tapi dah jadi tin sardin.
    Ada yg nak tengok teruk mana viva kalau kemalangan kan ?.

    http://www.pgx.com.my/2009/07/kemalangan-jalan-raya-di-saratok-pada-5-julai-2009/
    http://ondscene.my/2009/02/23/setiausaha-maut-viva-rempuh-lori/
    nie plak Saga accident ngan impreza
    http://www.ehoza.com/v4/forum/x-files-mistery-amazing/32106-kecelakaan-saga-blm.html
    fikir le sendiri lepas tengok kabin saga & viva…. ok

  207. 1Malaysia said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

    kalau korang nk kecik n murah, safety cikai giler, lggr lori comfirm mampus, tunggu la TATA NANO, RM8k je!!! +- cukai, mgkin RM11-12k je!!! nah amik!!! tk yah byr RM40k, membazir je…

    auto UK kat youtube tu review bgs lg + leh jimat…

    kalau korg kata aku tak support kreta M’sia, jgn la beli P2, duit msk CEO2 KEPARAT Daihatsu/Toyota, P2 malaysia jual skirting, bumper n spoiler je!!! DUH!!

    beli la P1, size matter duh!! sokong kreta M’sia…

    tapi mn2 kreta pn tak leh lwn hukum fizik n ajal maut d tgn Tuhan… Peace

  208. Hollee Devil said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:56 pm

    Office time closing in…going back now n will try go look for P2 showroom to get a closer look at this small but expensive (relatively-speaking) Elite punya WiWa….bye!

  209. Engineer PE-ETM said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 5:57 pm

    let them la…

    It just a business for them…

    Just wish the best for all…

  210. ken_Tank91 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 6:07 pm

    ok ape desingn die…
    cme bukan buat sendiri r….

  211. Silver BumbleeBee said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 6:09 pm

    Looks like avanza in the front to me….

  212. nmh said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 6:12 pm

    ProtonUndercover

    GO TO HELL!

  213. zafedz said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 6:18 pm

    One idea for perodua…
    Chop this Viva shorter and make it 2 seater…
    Reduce the price and name it as Smart For P2…
    Violaaa………

  214. memeranglaut said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 6:19 pm

    nazri said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

    kepada sesiape yg rase saga BLM lg murah pegi beli saga la..
    bagi tempoh enam bulan je kat owner saga ni..
    tau tak, proton mengunakan material paling murah dalam penghasilan saga..
    so no wonder la harga saga murah..
    biar mahal sikit janji puas hati..
    so go viva go..!!

    Hahahahaha..
    biar mahal sikit janji ati puas? Are you joking? LOL
    proton used HTS (high Tensile Steel) la for the current model vehicle. I don’t know what type of steel Perol dua use, i bet it milo tin. It look like milo tin, it is light as milo tin, it is a fragile as milo tin. It must be a milo tin. hahahahah.
    Poor malaysia, all are looking for super efficent FC car. Viva is unfortunately one of them. Milo tin maa…less all those passive safety features, extra thin body sheet. No wonder it has demn good FC. Pitty malaysian and pitty me too. choose between FC and Safety. Safety for gor savvy or saga. Saving Fc go for moving portable koffin.

  215. mystvearn said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

    Makes no sense to me to make a baseline model upclass.Making it that expansive, then you will think why buy this? Better buy a Myvi which is bigger or saga which is even bigger.

    VIVA was already a doom project when comparing to the Saga. Size does matter

  216. p2_permanent_basher said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 6:45 pm

    Think about your life or your family life when considering buying this car!!!
    If u are thinking of fuel economy, think about trading your safeness and life for fuel economy…
    Go for SAGA or SAVVY if you value your life.

  217. silver said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 7:22 pm

    perodua is ripping off car buyers’ money by selling new viva so-called elite for a blood-sucking price RM44,900! add rm599 more can get persona already. don’t get fool with the new design people!!!

  218. Aper Nie said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

    SAGA BLM better for $ engine and space..but quality, reliability…no one knows.. Yeah this thing from P2 kinda overpriced..

  219. @ntiPerOdua said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:22 pm

    Go for Saga 1.6 lah !!!!! Only RM39K !!! So Hai baru buy tis kind of rubbish car !!!

  220. @ntiPerOdua said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:30 pm

    Hyundai i10 much more value than tis wat perodua supporter fellow so called ViVa! Only different 4k 5 years or 300,000km warranty & oso acheive 4 star crash test than tis nothing at all very dangerous stupid car !!! Correct Me IF i WRONG !!!

  221. @nti_PerOdua said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 8:32 pm

    Hyundai i10 more value than tis kind wat perodua supporter so called ViVa!!! Only different 4k can get 5 years or 300,000km warranty & oso can get more safer 4 star crash test than tis car nothing at all stupid very dangerous car !!!

  222. Kambing Laut said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:12 pm

    absolutely agree with p2_permanent_basher statement.

    Even everyday you drive a car, u must think money cannot buy human life.
    So, keep safety first.
    Thats why proton try hard to make safest car by sending the latest model like exora just for safety purpose and sanggup spending a lot of money to do that.
    No, this viva si not a practical car to buy.
    It’s practical for whos think fuel economy is the main target.

    i love my kid. I kiss them everyday before sleep..

  223. rockett said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:20 pm

    to azuraSE …

    aku cukup x setuju suruh goverment lupus kete lebih 10 thn…anda ingat rakyat kita ni sume kaye raya ke??kalau beli kete br pon kalau x reti maintainace pon x gne jugak… satria buruk aku da almost 11 yrs old..tp dulu sis aku kena tipu ngn proton…sbb tu aku masih dendam ngn proton..dlm geran tulis injection..tp dpt kete kaburetor…nk tukar x boleh…redha je lah…skrg ni aku just pkr mana kilang besi yg dpt amik kete aku nih….terlalu byk sgt rosaknyer…thats y aku percayakn perodua..aku gne kelisa..kelisa jauh lebih bgs…tingkap xpenah rosak since 8 yrs ago…engine still power…but for p2…boleh la..tp minx tlg la…kurang kn skit harga tuk EZi tuh..mahal sgt lah

    so renung2 kn lah

  224. gen2lama said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:23 pm

    got some one asking about the reliablity of SAGA BLM CAMPRO….

    well only the owner knows it…..my campro gen 2….millage = 300 000km…

    lu pikir sendiri la….NGV somemore…….sigh…pity p2 salesman….

  225. Anti_World_18PG said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:49 pm

    Paul Tan,
    Keep up the good work, ignore that ass protonundercover. I donno what is wrong with that undercover guy..claim to be proton undercover at his name title..maybe u should banned his ip or so on? Every human being in this world have their own perspective, some ppl might hate this car and some dont..we are juz saying out our thought about the car. U wanna talk about bashing, example TopGear that’s some real shit bashing..maybe ProtonUndercover u should sue bbc for Spraying a proton neo and myvi and riot around the street of london “no cheap car” and abandon it in tunnel or maybe u should really sue bbc for booming a kelisa in the show and declaring our country as “jungle clearing country” making car based on washing machine, as a msian u should have the right to do so u dumb shit..why dont u go to their forum and teach them a lesson.
    Mr Paul Tan here is giving a very fair comment on the car and bringing up updates of all the happening in msia car industries..which i salute the most and im always a fan of ur posting. Keep Up the good work Paul :) Peace

  226. tiwasok said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

    [quote]MUX said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

    kepada sesiape yg rase saga BLM lg murah pegi beli saga la..
    bagi tempoh enam bulan je kat owner saga ni..
    tau tak, proton mengunakan material paling murah dalam penghasilan saga..
    so no wonder la harga saga murah..
    biar mahal sikit janji puas hati..
    so go viva go..!![/quote]
    __________________________________________________________________________

    How did you know Viva production didn’t used cheap materials? Have you even test drive Saga BLM and compared it with Viva?
    I’ve driven both car, Viva and Saga BLM.
    And Saga beats Viva hands down in all aspect (except for fuel economy..different cc what..duh)

    But the main point is, Saga BLM offer a more ‘honest’ price tag. It stayed cheap.
    Viva on the other hands have gone to the ‘cekik darah’ path. RM45K++ for a car of this quality? thin body, thin front collision bar, wobbly suspension system etc..You satisfied with that for RM45K++

    oh well, you cash, your choice..

  227. skyyarif said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:12 pm

    this is stupid, how could viva elite with airbags n ABS, only be offered in auto tranny, manual terus tak ada semua? haihh, ni lah masalah kalau malaysian car companies di”protect” govt sepenuhnya, turunkan skit tax govt, baru lah diorang ni improve sbb lagi banyak competitors

  228. raybrig85 said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:15 pm

    theres a lot of comment here..well..its nt fair comparing those saga n viva in term of handling or stability etc…if u compare only wit price..yeah..this viva is overprice..btw..it dpends on the ppl to choose which 1 is suit them..i agree that in term of comfort etc saga is better than viva..bt then maybe some of them still dont hv a trust on proton which referring to their bad record b4..thats y they still stick to perodua till now eventho they know that car is pricey if compare to proton..

  229. tin said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 10:48 pm

    viva..bukan saja elite tapi eligan dan mesra guna

  230. keta-keta said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:24 pm

    wat makes the viva fuel economy is its light weight.when u switch on the wiper at full speed u can even fell the car goyang follow the wiper! i drove my relative BLM once balik kampung, for me it worth than buying a viva.viva side door very nipis la. it is about my 3 fingers thickness. wen u close the door,it making “TONG” sound.my father bought a viva b4 saga was launched, if not he wont 1 to buy viva. haiya, wat a regreat.
    my father’s viva is more than 1 yr, still no problem. but my relative’s saga just around 3 months the alarm is not working anymore.

  231. pennstater said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:31 pm

    boo you perodua. yay proton!

  232. mrbread said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:37 pm

    front bumper seems like Avanza & Grill like a Grand Livina / Kembara x)

  233. RSZ said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:43 pm

    over priced…..
    haiz…..
    pity malaysian…

  234. nazri said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:44 pm

    guys next facelift saga 2011 will be 1.6 and have cvvt gearbox… new head lamp, led tail light, side mirror signal with auto retractable, abs, ebd, bcm

    i hope my dream will come true

  235. Anti_World_18PG said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

    mrbread
    Dont u think the Grill look similar to Honda City? Anyone think so?

  236. fauzi said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 12:26 am

    Wak Rempit said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 11:40 am

    ProtonUndercover said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 9:50 am

    Mak ko tak ajar adab ke?
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    sabaq wak ,hagpa dok layan dia buat apa kalau tau dia kurang ajaq .buat apa hang dok cakap f&%# dekat dia kesian kat dia. in the fist place Paul ,you should ignore his comment waste of time. better you find more article about automotive for us.ok now i’m going to merempit at PLUS highway hope i can find cucukman with his pesona CPS and cucuk him with my RXZ in superman style

  237. king said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 1:09 am

    dis kereta mayat viva 850cc harga macam 1300cc saga. then 1000cc elite harga macam 1600cc persona. biar betul…

    you are just too greedy perodua…..serves you right, p1 already overtake you in total monthly sales and will continue to do so.

    http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_2026/page_m.asp

  238. aspalela said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 1:12 am

    JAKARTA: Terangsang dengan 600 tempahan Exora dalam tempoh seminggu memasuki pasaran Indonesia, pengeluar kereta nasional Malaysia, Proton, akan mempergiat promosi dan publisiti mengenai kualiti produknya.

    Pengarah Urusan Proton Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamad Tahir, yang

    gembira dengan sambutan menggalakkan dari para pembeli di Indonesia, berkata ia menunjukkan buat pertama kalinya Proton mempunyai produk yang tepat dengan

    permintaan pasaran di sini.
    ———–

    Big Momma EXORA will kill Produa sales.. hahaha…. wutever produa do, seems not enough to beat so called underpowered exora.. haha..
    this Viva got nice facelift, but the chassis and weight not as comfort as sedan.. for short distance maybe ok..for long distance..sakit badan ooo…

  239. king said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 2:06 am

    keta-keta said,

    July 24, 2009 @ 11:24 pm

    wat makes the viva fuel economy is its light weight.when u switch on the wiper at full speed u can even fell the car goyang follow the wiper! i drove my relative BLM once balik kampung, for me it worth than buying a viva.viva side door very nipis la. it is about my 3 fingers thickness

    ——–

    really? you must have thin fingers…..its about 2 fingers to me… paper thin doors that become total loss when hit by bmx bicycle.

  240. Cucukman said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 2:26 am

    fauzi said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 12:26 am

    sabaq wak ,hagpa dok layan dia buat apa kalau tau dia kurang ajaq .buat apa hang dok cakap f&%# dekat dia kesian kat dia. in the fist place Paul ,you should ignore his comment waste of time. better you find more article about automotive for us.ok now i’m going to merempit at PLUS highway hope i can find cucukman with his pesona CPS and cucuk him with my RXZ in superman style

    ————–
    >>just wake up from nice dream…
    Anybody call me?? oh Mr Pojie, RXZ outdated already bro, i owned ZZR before, so please forget to race bro… before u cucuk my rear bonnet, i will suddenly brake to give a chance to u to fly bro..hahaha..
    this Viva can put turbo engine or not? maybe can see a Turbo Viva cucuk my rear soon..

  241. lolP2lol said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 3:46 am

    Come on P2, don’t imitate P1’s old work.
    P1 use to facelift their old wira, iswara in the past.
    But, that was stone age story already.
    DONT ever offer lousy car overpriced car in Malaysia anymore, Malaysian will loose their patience!
    DONT think that once you succeed in Myvi, then you will sure continue to win Malaysian’s heart!
    Put more fund in R&D! Come out with affordable and safe car dude!
    For P1, although the Saga is good. But, do you think P1 care of Malaysian’s life? Why they take out the passenger’s side airbag? For extra storage for your highway ticket? Touch n Go card? To put teh tarik inside? Why they “forget” about some very very very very very, extremely basic safety like ABS, EBD, BA in the Saga?
    Come on Malaysian, we care about our National Car Makers! However, do they care about us? When their profit drop, Love Our Country, Support Make in Malaysia product. How about when they earn money? Will they contribute something for Malaysian by offering affordable and safe car?
    So, don’t support blindly to Malaysia Car Maker!
    They only concern about earning money.
    Support only to those who really concern about our safety. Unfortunately, none at the moment…

  242. _xXx_ said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 8:21 am

    utuh said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 11:04 am

    I cannot agree more on the price and the substandard quality of parts supplied by the local vendor. Malaysia boleh maaa.

    The other day, my friend’s viva got scratched. You know what lies underneath the sparking paint…MILO.
    __________________________

    be careful my friend. Watch ur mouth. FYI there’s no reason for doing that. If u r in stamping industry you will know what I meant.

  243. rixx said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 9:35 am

    kalau viva elite ni ada turbo berbaloi jugak nak beli, mahal sangat….better beli BLM

  244. MUX said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 11:10 am

    kepada saki77..
    no wonder la sbb aku engineer manufacturing in auto..
    tempat keje secret la…
    so aku tengok je dah tau material ape saga pkai…
    weh gua pnah involve dgn TUV kat german la..
    ape2 pun..viva have low price in maintenance..
    viva..kereta yg paling practical..
    go viva go..!!

  245. Fridz said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 11:51 am

    Wah, the Persona Cps guy is back..hehe

    BTW, this elite Viva is very expensive laa…if you want 4star K-car, better go for Hyundai i10…

    For P2, pls note that you are now loosing your potential buyer.so pls do right thing on your products..

    P2, dont dream anymore.forget your winning myvi and petrol-saving viva.pikirkan baik2.

    peace..

  246. mamat puchong said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 11:52 am

    Good look.. congratulation to P2.
    However it is overprice…
    Please make it more reseonable…

  247. P1_P2_Are_Shit said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 2:15 pm

    Ignorance is bliss…

  248. mal said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 2:40 pm

    ape la korang..nk compare viva n saga…kalo sape yg fikir dri segi kualiti,perodua lagi bgus dri proton la..korang beli saga, tpi at the end,rosak mcm2,mmg la besar…tpi kualiti lgsung tarak la..talk about kualiti la beb…perodua mmg bgus…kalo 45k tu mahal bg korang,,,amik je la yg 40k or 38k je…tpi kalo pikir dri segi keluasan,amik je la saga, senang tpi kualiti tarak, viva kecik tpi kualiti bgus, in long term perodua lgi bgus dri proton…pakai lama pun x ade mcm2 prob…so kalo nk beli kereta tu..pikir la dri pelbagai segi…ok..(aku nk amik yg manual)jimat minyak n smart pun smart midnigt blue..go perodua….;)

  249. nhk said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 3:10 pm

    I better buy a Proton Saga 1.5.. Bigger and power than Elite.. This car is overprice and SUCKS.. Viva always Viva..

  250. chak said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 3:38 pm

    bonet pon lain tuh…korang tengok la betol2…bukan stakat bumber jer ko nak kena tukar ..kalo nak convert..

  251. tokmoh said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

    rockett,

    govt never force u to change ur 10-year-old car, it’s voluntary, faham tak?

    VOLUNTARY.

    V-O-L-U-N-T-A-R-Y.

    SUKARELA.

    S-U-K-A-R-E-L-A.

    Tak nak tukar, tak apa. Itu hak anda, kerajaan tak paksa, mereka cuma galakkan.

    GALAKKAN.

    G-A-L-A-K-K-A-N.

    ENCOURAGE.

    E-N-C-O-U-R-A-G-E.

    ======

    MUX,

    Are u saying Saga BLM is not using high tensile steel? Tengok je da tau? What are your eyes, Superman’s eyes?

    Fuck you. Go look at Initial R’s post. Even Saga BLM can pwn Subaru Impreza (it even burnt).

  252. love it! said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

    This car is overpriced..and that is sux..period…hope they’ll aware about it and reduced the price…

    I think MUX is a stupid looser whining about his best…I bet he know heck about car just a form 5 student making waste of his leisure time after study for SPM…same goes to protonunderwear

  253. heavencloud said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 5:03 pm

    I, representative for Jeremy Clarkson, hereby saying “This car is an absolute rubbish, built with no passion at all but only greed to make money”

  254. theking said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

    New Perodua Moto

    Buildings Cars Money First Malaysian Last!

  255. p2_permanent_basher said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 5:42 pm

    ProtonUndercover has disappeared and SO MALU to come back and defend himself. ProtonUndercover is sooooo OWNED!

  256. dang said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 5:55 pm

    Muahahahahahaha!!!
    It’s so entertaining reading all these comments here.

    Let’s spot & count them on the road later on…

  257. peYno said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 6:11 pm

    mal said
    ape la korang..nk compare viva n saga…kalo sape yg fikir dri segi kualiti,perodua lagi bgus dri proton la..korang beli saga, tpi at the end,rosak mcm2,mmg la besar…tpi kualiti lgsung tarak la..talk about kualiti la beb…perodua mmg bgus…kalo 45k tu mahal bg korang,,,amik je la yg 40k or 38k je…tpi kalo pikir dri segi keluasan,amik je la saga, senang tpi kualiti tarak, viva kecik tpi kualiti bgus, in long term perodua lgi bgus dri proton…pakai lama pun x ade mcm2 prob…so kalo nk beli kereta tu..pikir la dri pelbagai segi…ok..(aku nk amik yg manual)jimat minyak n smart pun smart midnigt blue..go perodua….;)
    ===============
    prrrfthhh viva quality is better than Saga BLM???? haha budak ni keluar dari gua ke apa…

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MFDk6Ob6

  258. Nutswagen said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

    MUX said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 11:10 am

    kepada saki77..
    no wonder la sbb aku engineer manufacturing in auto..
    tempat keje secret la…
    so aku tengok je dah tau material ape saga pkai…
    weh gua pnah involve dgn TUV kat german la..
    ape2 pun..viva have low price in maintenance..
    viva..kereta yg paling practical..
    go viva go..!!

    r u using viva? please explain about safety.. i know u r good since you’re so called manufacturing in auto. why we bash ViVa because its safety features and Overpriced… Proved it…

  259. Nutswagen said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 6:39 pm

    Initial R post:

    http://www.pgx.com.my/2009/07/kemalangan-jalan-raya-di-saratok-pada-5-julai-2009/

    ———–

    Oh Damn..the rim-sport tougher than Viva Chassis…OMG.. i wonder what happen to the driver.. sandwich alredi? i hope this will never never happen ho my relatives and friends..

  260. kimi_ said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:30 pm

    I will not buy this car at all….endangering all malaysian lives….

    This viva should be held under the ISA!!!!!

    i will opt for the SAGA better….

  261. chiklee said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

    keta viva nie memang lah mahal sikit kalu nak bandingkan harga dia ngan saga. tapi harus ingat viva nie minyak dia jimat bangat,(intown used)keta saga tu, minyak dia tuan tuan sendiri mau ingatlah. pada saya viva nie untuk 2nd car sahaja. maksud dia owner tersebut dah ada keta lain la. jadi harus ingat onwer tersebut berkemampuan untuk memiliki keta yang kompak tapi eksklusif (ada semua ciri ciri abs, airbags ect…
    so kesimpulan dia sapa2 yang baru nak beli keta dan hanya itu lah keta yang mampu dimiliki buat lah pilihan yang bijak.

    ambik lahcontoh ini vios 1.5 rm88k lawan pesona 1.6 sekitar 60k (aku agak2 je nie) kenapa lebih ramai org beli vios ???????????

    jawapan bukan sebab kualiti tapi sebab org yang beli vios ada duit,,,,
    dan org yang pakai pesona tu tak mampu nak beli vios (tak de duit )

  262. ray said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:56 pm

    saya memang setuju sesangat ngan chiklee tue!!!!
    sebab saya pun pakai vios.memang pergghhh jimat minyak.rega 88k vios S tu apalah sangat,kira ok klu nak banding dgn persona.
    cuma nak pesan kat semua beli la viva elite ni.(untuk org yg ada duit).
    klu kokak tak de duit beli la saga or persona.

  263. Auto_crat said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 8:25 pm

    What the He**. You call that elite. Agreed with theking “Buildings Cars Money First Malaysian Last!” Sish, a waste of money for the so call elite. I thought P2 has released some kind of SE version which is quite rare on the road coz it’s expensive la. This elite…better shelved it la.

  264. Anak Dato’KK said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 8:46 pm

    Why masih ada lagi yang nak “menegakkan benang yang basah”? Safety first la. Minyak mahal boleh bayar, kalau x nak belanja byk untuk minyak, guna kete secara berhemah, yang perlu pakai kete je baru bwk kete. Kalau setakat nak gi beli rokok sekotak, naik moto or jalan kaki pun dah ok. Minyak jimat tapi bulan2 confirm dah kena bayar mahal, camno? pastu bwk tak best lak tu, ringan semacam je.
    Nyawa bukan ada spare kat umah. Bukanlah maknanya org bwk saga x mati kalau accident tp risiko lebih rendah berbanding orh bwk tin milo bertayar. Kalau mati tu kira ok la tp kalau duk terlantar je kat hospital berbulan2, tak ke menyusahkan org namanya. Kalau cacat pun dah kira susah dah…INGATLAH ORANG YANG TERSAYANG. Fikir masak2 sebelum buat keputusan!!

  265. acerman said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

    mal said,

    ape la korang..nk compare viva n saga…kalo sape yg fikir dri segi kualiti,perodua lagi bgus dri proton la..korang beli saga, tpi at the end,rosak mcm2,mmg la besar…tpi kualiti lgsung tarak la..talk about kualiti la beb…perodua mmg bgus…kalo 45k tu mahal bg korang,,,amik je la yg 40k or 38k je…tpi kalo pikir dri segi keluasan,amik je la saga, senang tpi kualiti tarak, viva kecik tpi kualiti bgus, in long term perodua lgi bgus dri proton…pakai lama pun x ade mcm2 prob…so kalo nk beli kereta tu..pikir la dri pelbagai segi…ok..(aku nk amik yg manual)jimat minyak n smart pun smart midnigt blue..go perodua….;)

    —————-

    My wife’s Viva just 1 year old, rear window got stuck, passenger window stuck, engine sounded like a motorboat and it really starts like a motorboat, rattling sound from somewhere but cannot find it where it come from,
    minyak memang jimat sebab CC kecil, badan pun kecil, chasis pun ringan, tapi kalau bawak laju pun sama jugak makan minyak kuat jugak! and another thing, after gone to various tyre shop, masih bergoyang, bila pandu more than 110, tapi kualiti out! I thought this car is good enough to drive in the city and long distances and easy parked, but I was wrong, this car is just a normal car.
    Nothing so special about it, I even hate it when there is no sound when U alarm the car, have to look inside twice if its locked or not, just a little ‘tweet’ ‘tweet’ is nice. The gear change is also lagging, have to push hard on the accel. just to overtake a car, oh…letih taip.

  266. fauzi said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 10:09 pm

    Cucukman said,
    July 25, 2009 @ 2:26 am
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    U are not my brother and also dont want to be brother with U .for your info i only have 2 brother none of them being named as cucukman.that why la i used RXZ because an outdated one also can cucuk pesona CPS.ZZR pun already outdated now hayabusa and R1 is the best for me la.

  267. fauzi said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 10:35 pm

    Cucukman said,
    July 25, 2009 @ 2:26 am

    >>just wake up from nice dream…
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    just wake up or your parent don’t let you get out from bed.that why la i used an outdated RXZ, with this one I also can cucuk Pesona CPS no need to used hayabusa or R1.cucukman go back to sleep,have a nice dream.be a good kid and don’t kill others people ,God love that

  268. Knoxx said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:06 am

    mal said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 2:40 pm

    ape la korang..nk compare viva n saga…kalo sape yg fikir dri segi kualiti,perodua lagi bgus dri proton la..korang beli saga, tpi at the end,rosak mcm2,mmg la besar…tpi kualiti lgsung tarak la..talk about kualiti la beb…perodua mmg bgus…kalo 45k tu mahal bg korang,,,amik je la yg 40k or 38k je…tpi kalo pikir dri segi keluasan,amik je la saga, senang tpi kualiti tarak, viva kecik tpi kualiti bgus, in long term perodua lgi bgus dri proton…pakai lama pun x ade mcm2 prob…so kalo nk beli kereta tu..pikir la dri pelbagai segi…ok..(aku nk amik yg manual)jimat minyak n smart pun smart midnigt blue..go perodua….;)

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comment-252259#ixzz0MHtyR9DV

    ———————————————————–

    apa bukti saga baru tue takde kualiti? ko dah beli ke? dah pakai ke?
    kalau pasal nak compare perodua & proton ke, tengoklah dulu model bila, tahun bila… bukan semua model tue tak berkualiti..

  269. MUX said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:43 am

    hahaha…
    aku xkisah pn ape pendapat korang..
    aku ad viva sebiji..
    dan aku dah ada caldina n c-rv…
    hehe..
    tetap suport malaysia..
    go viva go…!

  270. MUX said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:46 am

    lol.
    viva best..go viva go..

  271. BeritaHairan said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:48 am

    RAWANG:Rakyat Malaysia sepatutnya berbangga dengan pencapaian Pro2 , kerana dengan pelancaran Pro2 ViVa Elite ini, membuktikan kesungguhan jurutera Pro2 menghasilkan kereta buatan malaysia dengan menggunakan 80-90% komponen tempatan.Kesungguhan para jurutera ini terbukti apabila mereka dari bahagian RnD telah mencipta bumper dan juga grill yang 199% adalah idea anak tempatan.Hasil dari penciptaan bumper ini, meyakinkan pro2 untuk menghasilkan bumper yang lebih canggih di masa hadapan.Berbalik kepada ViVa Elite , ia telah dilengkapi dengan enjin paling berkuasa yang menjadi impian setiap ahbeng ia itu enjin 1.0l DvVt, sistem stering berkuasa dan juga inovasi anak tempatan bumper aerodinamik ciptaan pro2.Selain itu pro2 telah melancar kan ViVa versi kosong yang mampu dimiliki para rakyat, ia sekaligus menjadikan ViVa 660BX kereta paling murah dinegara ini yang setanding dengan TATA NANO..

  272. viva owner08 said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:48 am

    waaa, so nice la the front bumper.. anything to say, is still value for money.
    jimat minyakk…..kehkehkehekeh, i have viva also
    p2 car is high quality , no problemm.
    all technical spec from japan, interior only spec malaysia

  273. MUX said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:49 am

    viva..
    go viva go…

  274. MUX said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:53 am

    kepada mereka yg nk tengok mcm mane viva VS saga..
    tgk kat you tube ye…
    sila2…jom tgk reramai..
    taip je viva ke, saga ke..
    nanti korang tengok la…

  275. cocosman said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:53 am

    its a trend now in malaysia to have cars with that kind of grille in front.
    produa now realize and try to meet the demand. city and livina impul already done it, they made it.

  276. SAGA Xbest said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 1:02 am

    koranng komen2 viva mhal ye..
    proton murah ye..
    ok…kita same2 tgk penjelasan..
    pegi bukak you tube..
    taip proton saga VS perodua viva..

  277. Zack said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 1:34 am

    Viva,

    Advantages
    Jimat minyak
    enjin power
    rupa comel
    engineering first class (dvvt beb)
    tgk enjin bay je dah tau, mmg org yg reka kete ni power or pengalaman tinggi.

    Disadvantages
    Tutup pintu bunyi atap zink
    Speaker walaupon 4 bunyi tenggelam…x clear langsung
    Kete aku enjin bunyi agak bising n bergegar, x mcm myvi senyap je…
    Kete ni takde meter temperature….bahaya ni..
    radio cap ayam

    Mmg aku beli kete ni sbg 2nd car. Guna tuk cilok2 dalam bandar and g pasaraya je. Kalo nak jalan jauh penat pasal tayar kecik, goyng2 bila langgar lubang. Tp org cakap savvy pon bgus jgk, cuma kat ktn ni takde showroom yg letak savvy dah, camner nak buat actual comparison.

    Tapi aku tgk saga blm tu, bukan nak kutuk, engine bay dia mmg rupa mcm org baru belajr buat kete. Kasar dan menyakitkan mata. Engineering dia still ketinggalan…. Belom cite blind spot kete proton lagi.tp kualiti plastic dia mmg dah byk improve

    Untuk kepuasan memandu, beli la toyota.
    Untuk nak merasa gaya n power, beli la honda
    untuk nak beli 2nd car yg reliable….beli la perodua
    untuk kete yang mampu milik n handling superb….proton

    Bende ciptaan manusia, takde yang perfect. Yg mahal pon belum tentu tak rosak.Buat kajian sendiri dulu sblm beli, jgn ikut sgt ckp org….

  278. saki77 said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 1:57 am

    MUX..
    I ask for facts and u said u use ur eyes…
    yet u claim u r engineer in manufacturing auto….
    I know a few people who also work in that area…
    yet none of them claim that they have eyes like yours…
    and for an engineer..who is suppose to be educated…
    anything u claim or said should be supported by proofs….
    and ur answer, and the way u type ur comments….i doubt that u r an engineer….
    Maybe jurutera keretapi….engineer jugak….my respect to them..
    If u have any proofs other than ur eyes…pls share with us here…
    Its a good sharing of knowledge for everybody here….
    Please do….
    I think all of us here r waiting for ur proofs and facts…
    Peace….

  279. king said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 2:34 am

    chiklee said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

    keta viva nie memang lah mahal sikit kalu nak bandingkan harga dia ngan saga. tapi harus ingat viva nie minyak dia jimat bangat,(intown used)keta saga tu, minyak dia tuan tuan sendiri mau ingatlah. pada saya viva nie untuk 2nd car sahaja. maksud dia owner tersebut dah ada keta lain la. jadi harus ingat onwer tersebut berkemampuan untuk memiliki keta yang kompak tapi eksklusif (ada semua ciri ciri abs, airbags ect…
    so kesimpulan dia sapa2 yang baru nak beli keta dan hanya itu lah keta yang mampu dimiliki buat lah pilihan yang bijak.

    ambik lahcontoh ini vios 1.5 rm88k lawan pesona 1.6 sekitar 60k (aku agak2 je nie) kenapa lebih ramai org beli vios ???????????

    jawapan bukan sebab kualiti tapi sebab org yang beli vios ada duit,,,,
    dan org yang pakai pesona tu tak mampu nak beli vios (tak de duit )

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comment-252229#ixzz0MIT8Sg6t

    ——–
    chiklee….chicklee

    you are a perfect example of a p2 ignorant uneducated supporter that listen to pasar malam ah pek talk and believe everything you hear.

    persona outsold dugong vios by more than 50% already year to date. so what crap are you talking about? wake up!! it is the year 2009. not 2006.

    alot of ppl try to be smart alec but end up as dumb ass… thats y so many of them think 45k is worth the money for this junk toy paper car from T2 ( toy’s R us 2)

  280. Anti-Gomen said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 2:44 am

    Gomen cibai …kereta macam nie jual bawah 25 ribu dah la tak kira la spec macam mana pun …kasik la rakyat senang skit …tahu2 nak pau rakyat saja…ptuih!

  281. tunomura said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 3:35 am

    Why Viva fuel economy?

    1. Body is super thin. Power to weight ratio is high and make fuel consumption is lower. Frontal impact is just to absorb when hitting a motorcycle. Even airbag retract, you already dead due to it crumpled just like thin paper and you stuck in there.
    2. Viva had to be driven at low speed all the time. Viva owner don’t even dare to push their accelerator because their car start to shaking like hell and flying
    3. Viva is only driven in short distance. Long distance unless you can absorb all vibration in your beloved Viva for longer time.

    Actually Savvy is more fuel efficient and affordable than Viva. With good handling, tough body and quality is verify by TUV German, Savvy is a good choice rather than this tin milo…Proton, no Savvy facelift ka?? Please change Savvy engine to Campro 1.3 CPS small engine, surely it will make spare part more cheaper.

  282. tunomura said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 3:35 am

    Why Viva fuel economy?

    1. Body is super thin. Power to weight ratio is high and make fuel consumption is lower. Frontal impact is just to absorb when hitting a motorcycle. Even airbag retract, you already dead due to it crumpled just like thin paper and you stuck in there.
    2. Viva had to be driven at low speed all the time. Viva owner don’t even dare to push their accelerator hard because their car start to shaking like hell and flying
    3. Viva is only driven in short distance. Long distance unless you can absorb all vibration in your beloved Viva for longer time.

    Actually Savvy is more fuel efficient and affordable than Viva. With good handling, tough body and quality is verify by TUV German, Savvy is a good choice rather than this tin milo…Proton, no Savvy facelift ka?? Please change Savvy engine to Campro 1.3 CPS small engine, surely it will make spare part more cheaper.

  283. tunomura said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 3:36 am

    Why Viva fuel economy?

    1. Body is super thin. Power to weight ratio is high and make fuel consumption is lower. Frontal impact is just to absorb when hitting a motorcycle. Even airbag retract, you already dead due to it crumpled just like thin paper and you stuck in there.
    2. Viva had to be driven at low speed all the time. Viva owner don’t even dare to push their accelerator hard because their car start to shaking like hell and flying
    3. Viva is only driven in short distance. Long distance unless you can absorb all vibration in your beloved Viva for longer time.

    Actually Savvy is more fuel efficient and affordable than Viva. With good handling, aerodynamic, tough body and quality is verify by TUV German, Savvy is a good choice rather than this tin milo…Proton, no Savvy facelift ka?? Please change Savvy engine to Campro 1.3 CPS small engine, surely it will make spare part more cheaper.

  284. Keliwon Undertaker said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 4:00 am

    Viva is Toyota DNA ma …vely stlong and fuel effisen … i love p2…p1 no good

  285. konoha boy said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 4:19 am

    hmmh…really enjoy when read all d comments here…haha
    saga is good? cave-man will say so!! haha
    my frnd did bought a saga BLM…but at d end…hampeh.. baik naik kete lembu lagi bagus xdak prob…
    he just drove dat thing about six mnths…suddenly d power-window is not giving its full service as it should be.. so need a backup-hand to pull d window up when to close it… damn!!
    biggest malaysian problem about auto-world is tax:300% from normal price.. slogan: use malaysian products..but d main reasons is based on PROFIT and making money to the some VIP people n not really to help malaysian nationality.

  286. tunomura said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 4:21 am

    continue..

    I pick Savvy because it is good example how to build a small car. Perodua shud learn from Proton how to build good chassis as Savvy. Since it is the car small and compact, it must have tough body order to make sure it can absorb huge energy from big car during collision. Handling and aerodynamic also must be good, to make less weight car can drive safely and competitive on the highway. When I was a student, I have a chance to study Proton Savvy aerodynamic characteristic (Scaled model tested in wind tunnel). The result is superb and I feel proud that Malaysian can design such car (even in real, the car is ugly)

    The major problem with Proton is they didn’t have good engine this car segment and Perodua has it. Good by mean efficient, durable, reliable, cheaper spare part and easy to maintain. Even Perodua engine is outdated but with this good items, it will outsell.

    Peace

  287. WinterAngeLs said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 4:40 am

    techboy_88

    “No more red and green and for Viva. Only silver, black, white and blue. Seriously, why Perodua no longer offer “cheerful colour options”?

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0MIsWjsMU
    —————————————————————–
    I think our blood sucking P2 is trying to learn from the German’s marque like BMW & Mercedes who offers luxurious and premium colors for their model lineup which is mostly metallic, black and white, thus making this entry level piece of crap ELITE looks high class. Having named ELITE doesn’t mean it makes your car looks premium or even sound premium.
    Wait until TopGear got their hands on this thing and see how they burn it with a jetcar or even destroy it like a toy car. They don’t even fancy the “Mai-Vai” over there.

    Come on P2, how can the rakyat support u if u comes out with this kind of product with this kind of pricing. P2 if u r reading this blog, please make an effort to count how many comments above are negative comments. Seriously im no basher, its just the rakyat and my point of view…no offense. I couldn’t find myself a reason to get this car except for those rich fella who doesn’t have anywhere else to spend their money.

  288. nazri said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 5:38 am

    waaa MUX u got kaya one even got caldina.. why not compare 120kmph caldina with 120kmph saga blm? not same feeling ka? for me viva is still overprice car and for the price tag better buy myvi or saga blm.

  289. peYno said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 7:19 am

    Keliwon Undertaker said,
    July 26, 2009 @ 4:00 am

    Viva is Toyota DNA ma …vely stlong and fuel effisen … i love p2…p1 no good
    ==========================
    Viva has nothing to do with TOYOTA.. it is from DAIHATSU..
    pity p2 salesman and p2 worker trying to convince ppl that their cars are from toyota …
    pls take note.. DAIHATSU brand not doing well in INdonesia as well as malaysia

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MIPeCMHx

  290. peYno said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 7:24 am

    Zack said,
    July 26, 2009 @ 1:34 am

    Viva,

    Advantages
    Jimat minyak
    enjin power
    rupa comel
    engineering first class (dvvt beb)
    tgk enjin bay je dah tau, mmg org yg reka kete ni power or pengalaman tinggi.

    Disadvantages
    Tutup pintu bunyi atap zink
    Speaker walaupon 4 bunyi tenggelam…x clear langsung
    Kete aku enjin bunyi agak bising n bergegar, x mcm myvi senyap je…
    Kete ni takde meter temperature….bahaya ni..
    radio cap ayam

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comment-252345#ixzz0MIQkmc1w
    ==========================
    viva jimat minyak?? dah nama pon cc 660,850,1000cc.. mmg la jimat minyak.. ko nak compare dgn engine lagi besar ke??

    engine power??? ni mesti bebudak yg kena auta dgn p2 salesman yg DVVT to very powderful..prrrfthhhh

    bila ko kata engine bunyi biosing berbanding myvi,.. nampak sgt kebodohan ko pasal keta/.. viva engine dia 3 cylinders.. mmg la bunyo bising cam motorboat dan bergegar… kalau ada dvvt, tapi setakat3 cylinder. TATA NANO pon pakai 3 cylinder engine

  291. T_SA said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 9:31 am

    P2 try to put their brand image price higher like their brother T. Think again whether this is the right time and people too fanatic about their brand.

  292. hitler said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 10:23 am

    45k seriously? better get persona got class looks like exe car hehe.. my fren bought b line persona 2009 mod it and look great wit no prob as widely said so i end up buying one too recenly very satisfied no perodua car got fine handling like persona… i used to onwed myvi…. it a good car but persona better…price for 45k its your choice persona myvi viva elite..

  293. mrzali said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 10:49 am

    Dear PAUL,

    I would like to suggest for you to write an article about CAR SAFETY features. For example ABS – AntiLock Brake System. Why car manufacturers in MALAYSIA should implement this technology. RAKYAT always want LOW COST car + low fuel consumption BUT disregard their own safety by having car without ABS, Air Bags, etc. It would be nice if you could put video from internet to make it more clear how ABS works.

    ABS video – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd5KDvXbE3M

  294. raybrig85 said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 11:30 am

    i think wut some of them think about a better quality is maybe the maintenance wise..maybe perodua topple proton on this which didnt gv much headache to the user in the future…peace..i think u guyz no need to perang2la…its easy..tepuk dada tanye selera..kalau viva x bagus..blila saga..kalau saga x bagus..bli la viva..but still…u shud knw y do u want it..e.r..for cmfort or cuty purpose..i think nt even u buy proton or perodua will show ur patriotism or support malaysia…wut about ppl who dont hv either both cars??duhhh….aku boring tgk korg perang pasal proton n perodua…cheers la bro..

  295. Minachi said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 11:43 am

    #
    ray said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:56 pm

    saya memang setuju sesangat ngan chiklee tue!!!!
    sebab saya pun pakai vios.memang pergghhh jimat minyak.rega 88k vios S tu apalah sangat,kira ok klu nak banding dgn persona.
    cuma nak pesan kat semua beli la viva elite ni.(untuk org yg ada duit).
    klu kokak tak de duit beli la saga or persona.
    #
    Auto_crat said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 8:25 pm

    What the He**. You call that elite. Agreed with theking “Buildings Cars Money First Malaysian Last!” Sish, a waste of money for the so call elite. I thought P2 has released some kind of SE version which is quite rare on the road coz it’s expensive la. This elite…better shelved it la.
    ————-

    u are same person right ? my mum said ‘orang yang bercakap dengan diri sendiri ialah orang gila’

    i hate this Killer machine…

  296. Minachi said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:23 pm

    #
    chiklee said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

    keta viva nie memang lah mahal sikit kalu nak bandingkan harga dia ngan saga. tapi harus ingat viva nie minyak dia jimat bangat,(intown used)keta saga tu, minyak dia tuan tuan sendiri mau ingatlah. pada saya viva nie untuk 2nd car sahaja. maksud dia owner tersebut dah ada keta lain la. jadi harus ingat onwer tersebut berkemampuan untuk memiliki keta yang kompak tapi eksklusif (ada semua ciri ciri abs, airbags ect…
    so kesimpulan dia sapa2 yang baru nak beli keta dan hanya itu lah keta yang mampu dimiliki buat lah pilihan yang bijak.

    ambik lahcontoh ini vios 1.5 rm88k lawan pesona 1.6 sekitar 60k (aku agak2 je nie) kenapa lebih ramai org beli vios ???????????

    jawapan bukan sebab kualiti tapi sebab org yang beli vios ada duit,,,,
    dan org yang pakai pesona tu tak mampu nak beli vios (tak de duit )
    #
    ray said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:56 pm

    saya memang setuju sesangat ngan chiklee tue!!!!
    sebab saya pun pakai vios.memang pergghhh jimat minyak.rega 88k vios S tu apalah sangat,kira ok klu nak banding dgn persona.
    cuma nak pesan kat semua beli la viva elite ni.(untuk org yg ada duit).
    klu kokak tak de duit beli la saga or persona.
    ——–

    i mean Chiklee and Ray :) hehe.. talk with yourself..ehehe.. at least wait la for half an hour before comment and berlakon other person..so nobody realize it is same person..hehe..

    sorry..i will never recommend my family and relatives to buy this car.. unless we got it free..so can use it to go to pasar, instead of riding motorbike..

  297. Julian-Lee said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 12:33 pm

    BMW more elite

  298. MUX said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 2:03 pm

    viva got new look..
    nice job perodua..
    like a new bumper..
    make it real nice style…
    go viva go..!!

  299. MUX said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 2:45 pm

    stakat 43k-45k..
    apela sgt…
    viva go viva..
    perodua have a bit profit to make another R&D..
    not only for them..but for malaysia..
    go perodua go..!!
    bayangkan la..
    skali buat researh da telan blanje brape plak..
    so perodua have a god job..
    wel done..!!
    suport perodua…!

  300. p2_permanent_basher said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 5:21 pm

    stakat 43k-45k..
    apela sgt…
    viva go viva..
    perodua have a bit profit to make another R&D..
    not only for them..but for malaysia..
    go perodua go..!!
    bayangkan la..
    skali buat researh da telan blanje brape plak..
    so perodua have a god job..
    wel done..!!
    suport perodua…!

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MM2jxhJe

    —–
    MUX, from your comment you are reinforcing the concept of building cars, perodua first , people last. A concept made famous by old proton management!! Wake up MUX… U org perodua right?

    Mux, put yourself into a caring father/mother, when u buy a car u obviously look for a safe car for your kid, if u dont ,i feel sorry for your kids. Do u want to out live your kids? Even if u drive the car slowly and carefully, (touch wood) accidents will happen, even its not your fault. Remember the karpal singh’s case?, a big 4wd hit the taxi with him inside and now he will spend his life in a chair. So my point is, take all the precaution you can, money wont buy u life. Invest in safety… That is why safety ratings exists.!

  301. peYno said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 7:24 pm

    MUX
    u sound like desperate p2 salesman… so scared proton has beaten perodua in July sales figure???

    prrrfthhh

  302. MUX said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 8:27 pm

    huh..
    la..spe nk beli perodua silekan la..
    sape nk beli proton silakan la…
    sape nk pkai honda silakan la…
    sape nk beli toyota silakan..
    sape nk pkai bugati veron pun silakan..
    alahai..x brpihak mane2 pn…
    yg penting duit masing2..
    aku da ada toyota caldina gt4,
    wife aku pkai nissan latio impul,
    viva pn aku ada..
    tp yg paling sedih model proton jual blik xde harge..
    sape2 xpecaye,korang boleh try tnye used car ye..
    peace no war..

  303. saki77 said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 8:31 pm

    MUX..mana ko punye crv?

  304. RunnerUp said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 9:09 pm

    [July 26, 2009 @ 2:45 pm] MUX said,
    stakat 43k-45k..
    apela sgt…

    _____________

    Ah, no wonder P2 dares to put such high price for this car.
    Their salesmen think that 43-45k is nothing much… huh…

  305. mamat puchong said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 9:36 pm

    stakat 43k-45k..
    apela sgt…
    viva go viva..
    perodua have a bit profit to make another R&D..
    not only for them..but for malaysia..
    go perodua go..!!
    bayangkan la..
    skali buat researh da telan blanje brape plak..
    so perodua have a god job..
    wel done..!!
    suport perodua…!

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#more-16019#ixzz0MN8hpFJe

    alo,

    what malaysia are you taking about.
    we’re all Malaysian…. tak dapat apa2 pun.
    Perodua never give us anything pun,

    anyway….. 43-45K is still overprice.
    nothing can change that.
    Overprice…

  306. mamat puchong said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 9:40 pm

    MUX said,
    July 26, 2009 @ 8:27 pm

    huh..
    la..spe nk beli perodua silekan la..
    sape nk beli proton silakan la…
    sape nk pkai honda silakan la…
    sape nk beli toyota silakan..
    sape nk pkai bugati veron pun silakan..
    alahai..x brpihak mane2 pn…
    yg penting duit masing2..
    aku da ada toyota caldina gt4,
    wife aku pkai nissan latio impul,
    viva pn aku ada..
    tp yg paling sedih model proton jual blik xde harge..
    sape2 xpecaye,korang boleh try tnye used car ye..
    peace no war..

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comment-252430#ixzz0MNAD861D

    Tok sah la berlagak sangat….
    Orang lain pun ada kereta besor..

    Viva overprice and you overreacted.

  307. peroempat said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 10:05 pm

    Perodua car too pricey, 2nd hand also pricey.
    If you want to buy Pronton car, you should buy the 2nd hand, so cheap no 2nd value.

  308. SUJAC said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 10:18 pm

    SEBENAR ORG MALAYSIA NI LEBIH PERCAYA BARANG LUAR. KIRA BANGGALAH KLU DPT BELI BRG LUAR. SAPA KATA PROTON TAK BAGUS SMMGNYA MEREKA ITU ORANG PANDAI MENGHARGAI DAN MEMPERCAYAI KEBOLEHAN ANAK MALAYSIA SENDIRI. KEMAMPUAN ANAK TELAH DIPERAKUI ORANG LUAR TAPI ORANG KITA TAK BOLEH PERAKUI. MEMANG TAK PATRIOTIK . KLAU TAK CAYA TENGOK PELAWANAN MU VS MALAYSIA. BERAPA KERAT YANG MEMAKAI BAJU MALAYSIA BERBANDING DGN MU. LPS TU KATA. MU MAIN ALA KADAR BILA MALAYSIA DPT BOBOS GOL MU.
    LU FIKIR LA SENDIRI

  309. gen2lama said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 10:27 pm

    mux = desperate p2 salesman..

    kesiannnnn……go work somewhere else la…..

  310. majavaz said,

    July 26, 2009 @ 11:52 pm

    scottloeb said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 10:24 am

    sorry for late reply.. I do agree with you but none of u said suit my taste at all.. haha.. sorry bro.. IKEA design is somewhere else.. tak macho la bro pakai kereta feminin, car is a big boys toys… so u know what I mean.. :)

  311. RunnerUp said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 12:00 am

    [July 26, 2009 @ 8:31 pm] saki77 said,

    MUX..mana ko punye crv?

    _____________

    Haha. MUX’s so busted.
    I’ve been a bit skeptical the moment he typed C-RV instead of CR-V.
    Thought it was just a typo, but now i’m sure it was all BS.

  312. fazron80 said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 12:25 am

    Persona is for people takda duit and Vios is for people ada duit?! Don;t say like thatlah nanti cucukman persona se will cucuk your vios then you know who actually ada duit ;p Cucukman you can find one black viva turbo at MRR2 However It cannot beat cps so I guess your persona should not have a problem too. Although your car only IAFM and no CPS hehehe.

    The truth is you buy vios because also takda duit to buy better car, so have to settle with overpriced ugly vios only. The only thing you care for is the T badge so other things such as looks or performance dont really matter.

    What do I think about this Viva supposedly with T dna? Viva is just a city car getting from point A to B. Buying a viva and then driving it long distance is just not its purpose. My experience driving it is the driving experience is worse than even kancil. So kancil owners actually have a better car than this viva.

  313. majavaz said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 12:55 am

    scottloeb said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 10:24 am

    Majavaz,
    check for Paul previous posting on Ford Fiesta concept. And Volvo YCC is designed b y a team of lady designer. Lots of Ikea product are form lady designer. I personally think that for interior, the car need to have some ladies touch. But the exterior can be as macho as Camaro, but practicality sometimes rule. Myself, a victim of G2 interior. And Rita, you should have done better cos I believe you can. Dugong shapes like a poo (for me lah) but its interior is reasonable. Who can find fault with 6 to 8 cupholder in a car, a cue form Vitz/Yaris? Livina shape suites uncle and makcik but its interior is pleasant to the eyes and fingers. And feminine features is a strong marketing factor as well.

    ================

    Ohh so u said all about interior lah?.. Aisey..
    quite agree wuth you, but for me car is a big boys toys.. women buy ‘cute’ cars just to go shoping or to work only.. but some modified their ride but you can count with your finger.. so leave it to man design for a real petrolhead.. Im not saying u cant have feminin touch.. but it just not suit my interest.. I’d rather had simplest interior, sharp design and very musculine feels for cars..
    as you said, volvo ycc,.. fiesta.. yaris.. i dont like them.. hehe sorry bro.. and another one..
    toyota interior = superb!..
    toyota exterior = hmmm…honda is waayy better.. huhuu..

    peace..

  314. person said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 2:55 am

    Perodua is BUILDING CAR SHAREHOLDERS FIRST !!

  315. dayo said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 3:01 am

    viva elite is just nice for me!it is affordable and small enough for me to park the car but not too small for me to put my shopping’s bags!the design and safety features can be said awesome for a car below 50k!isnt it? further more this car is made in malaysia and i can support the industry by buying one of the car!

  316. peYno said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 6:05 am

    peroempat said,
    July 26, 2009 @ 10:05 pm

    Perodua car too pricey, 2nd hand also pricey.
    If you want to buy Pronton car, you should buy the 2nd hand, so cheap no 2nd value.

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MNxgJq5v
    =============
    r u trying to say viva got 2nd hand value???
    wake up bro.. pls update ur knowledge… maybe u r thinking perodua sales still no.1 in Malaysia???… proton oredi beaten them laaaa

  317. memeranglaut said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 8:57 am

    dayo,
    which safety features is awesome? Active safety system which totally void in serious accident? the whole chassis collapse and the tine air bag will save you? face the reality man. Do you really believe the fragile chassis of the legendary Vivah is really going the protect you during hard accident? I think you have the answer already but denial…denial. deny it as long your can life, the the truth hurt. Viva= moving 4 wheel koffin with dvvt.
    Viva go via, look great (mpv wannabe but serious lack of space), outstanding advance dvvt (bloody true, less the vibrating part of 3 cylinder), great FC (milo tin is lighter than real steel, light mean less energy to move it, FC should be demn great).\
    MUX,
    who are you trying to convince that Pero Dua do have research? The R&D belong to Die Hard Sue lah. Come on lah, big chunk of perol dua profit already went to japan in form of royalties. body skirting and bumper need few billion kah? If perol dua do have proper R&D how much R&D grant from gov they claims? hahahhahaha..
    funny perodua man. Perodua R&D= bumper and body kit design. fullstop.

  318. Prismo said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 9:00 am

    MUX said,
    July 26, 2009 @ 12:43 am

    hahaha…
    aku xkisah pn ape pendapat korang..
    aku ad viva sebiji..
    dan aku dah ada caldina n c-rv…
    hehe..
    tetap suport malaysia..
    go viva go…!

    MUX said,
    July 26, 2009 @ 8:27 pm

    aku da ada toyota caldina gt4,
    wife aku pkai nissan latio impul,
    viva pn aku ada..
    tp yg paling sedih model proton jual blik xde harge..
    sape2 xpecaye,korang boleh try tnye used car ye..
    peace no war..
    —————————————————————-
    Are u sure that u’ve all the cars that u mention all above?? at 1st u said u have Viva Caldina and CRV… and 2nd time u said u only have Caldina GT4 and Viva and ur wife driving Latio Impul.. and where goes ur CRV? care to share ur Caldina GT4, CRV, Latio Impul and viva pics with us?? bunyi ko mcm org kaya je.. tapi beli Viva utk jimat minyak… org kaya tak kisah byk mana keta dia telan minyak asalkan dia selesa dlm keta besar sepanjang perjalanan… kalo org nak jimatkan minyak, korbankan keselesaan dlm keta kecik, bukan org kaya namanya… cukup2 makan je..

    Aku taklah kaya.. tapi mmg agak berada.. Setakat pakai Waja dan ada sebijik kancil850 thn 2003 yg kerap rosak.. baru je beli rumah semi detached double storey.. thn depan aku plan nak angkat Exora turbo.. pernah aku cuba drive kelisa850 2nd car mak aku.. mmg jimat minyak, tapi lebih baik aku pakai kereta yg lebih selamat dan selesa biarpun minyak dia kuat melantak.. aku ada duit lebih utk beli minyak.. aku peduli apa..tapi kalo org asyik cakap pasal jimat minyak.. tahu le aku yg duit dia cukup2 je utk beli minyak..

    err… betul ke kereta perodua masih ada value? ko tolong jualkan Kancil 850 thn 2003 aku RM15k dpt? tolong jugak jualkan keta kelisa 850 thn2006 mak aku RM20k dpt? aku cuba jualkan cuma dpt RM7k utk kancil dan RM14k utk kelisa.. hmm… settle loan pun tak lepas dgn harga tu beb…

  319. memeranglaut said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 9:19 am

    mux,
    setakat RM 43K-45k is nothing for small tiny miny 4 wheel koffin with dvvt? Apa la sangat ye tak mux, murah gile tu. untuk design bumper depan yang cantik dan demi R&D bumper dan bodykit yang canggih lagi advance yang korang perodua tengah buat tu. you are truly and faithfully brainwashed by perol dua. You are demn rich and demn clever one.
    43k-45k untuk viva cenonet tu murah giler. Untuk millionnaire macam hang la MUX. Accident jual scrap aje ye dak. itu pon kalo nyawa masih dikandung badan.

  320. farghmee said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 9:50 am

    pd aku,
    viva ni ok kalu pakai kt city je,
    yg mana,
    traffic perlahan & jalan bz.

    nk jln jauh & selesa cket,
    pakai la kete lain.

    viva utk 1st car mgkn xberbaloi..
    2nd car, mgkn..

    sapa2 yg duk kondem kete mcm ini, kete ni mcm tu,
    u all dh test drive ke?

    pd aku senang je.
    perodua, mana crash-test video bg Viva ni?

    btw, i10 yg 4star euro ncap tu spec euro, bkn spec yg dijual di malaysia.

  321. Prismo said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 10:10 am

    MUX said,
    July 25, 2009 @ 11:10 am

    kepada saki77..
    no wonder la sbb aku engineer manufacturing in auto..
    tempat keje secret la…
    so aku tengok je dah tau material ape saga pkai…
    weh gua pnah involve dgn TUV kat german la..
    ape2 pun..viva have low price in maintenance..
    viva..kereta yg paling practical..
    go viva go..!!
    ———————————————————-
    err… 1st time aku tgk yg seorg engineer manufacturing in auto yg pernah involve dgn TUV kat German cuma tulis dlm bahasa utk bagi komen… dlm bebyk engineer yg aku kenal, semuanya tulis english dan pakai keta besar yg tak kisah pasal penggunaan minyak keta diaorg.. seorg kwn aku yg engineer ni, pakai myvi pun dia taknak..

  322. kurakura said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 10:10 am

    Caldina tu kereta bos MUX.
    Latio Impul tu kereta idaman MUX, tapi tak mampu nak beli.
    Dia pakai kancil je.. LOL :-)

    Mari ramai2 beli Viva, boleh contact MUX since he is P2 salesman. Nanti boleh dia beli Latio Impul.

  323. scottloeb said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 10:28 am

    majavaz,
    we can agree to disagree, not a problem at all. But to capture the growing market, ladies preference shouldnt be ignored at all. Myself, being a guy hates Yaris to the max, but the practicality cant be ignored. simplistic design is good, because it may reduce the parts and ease the assembly process, and in the end minimising the quality issue. Add in the potential of increasing the volume will in the end causing eye pleasing, easy to use and good quality end product.
    And just a note, I love Camaro and Charger besided Mustang. Jazz is freakishly ladies but appeal to the guys as well (maybe a transvestites car haha). Agree with you, Toyota exterior is crap, Honda is always better generally but compare Accord to Camry (Asian), its completely different result I guess.

  324. bmpower said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 10:58 am

    Viva.. the winner for..
    WTF car of the year !

  325. CommaMassa said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 1:02 pm

    Nice name… Just like the name of Malaysia first mpv, Proton Juara, only champions (juara) have it.

  326. kimi_ said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 1:20 pm

    Dont just write what you like……MUX

    Dont be a LIAR, MUX………….

    BTW, this VIVA not suitable for long journey…

  327. RAVEN said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 1:55 pm

    MUX said,

    ..no wonder la sbb aku engineer manufacturing in auto.. <– (BULLSHIT!) ..gua pnah involve dgn TUV kat german la.. <– (IN YOUR DREAM LAH..) ..aku da ada toyota caldina gt4.. <– (BULLSHIT! Hahahaha.. just keep on dreaming..) wife aku pkai nissan latio impul,. <– (BULLSHIT! U don’t even married) viva pn aku ada.. <– (BULLSHIT! The only ride u have is your father’s EX5)

    KID, DON’T FOOLING AROUND LAH..

  328. ann said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 2:34 pm

    Small n no value for money…

  329. mira said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

    mahal!!!!!!!

  330. futureSAGAowner said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

    ____________
    chiklee said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:49 pm<———-

    keta viva nie memang lah mahal sikit kalu nak bandingkan harga dia ngan saga. tapi harus ingat viva nie minyak dia jimat bangat,(intown used)keta saga tu, minyak dia tuan tuan sendiri mau ingatlah. pada saya viva nie untuk 2nd car sahaja. maksud dia owner tersebut dah ada keta lain la. jadi harus ingat onwer tersebut berkemampuan untuk memiliki keta yang kompak tapi eksklusif (ada semua ciri ciri abs, airbags ect…
    so kesimpulan dia sapa2 yang baru nak beli keta dan hanya itu lah keta yang mampu dimiliki buat lah pilihan yang bijak.

    ambik lahcontoh ini vios 1.5 rm88k lawan pesona 1.6 sekitar 60k (aku agak2 je nie) kenapa lebih ramai org beli vios ???????????

    jawapan bukan sebab kualiti tapi sebab org yang beli vios ada duit,,,,
    dan org yang pakai pesona tu tak mampu nak beli vios (tak de duit )

    ______________
    ray said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:56 pm<———–

    saya memang setuju sesangat ngan chiklee tue!!!!
    sebab saya pun pakai vios.memang pergghhh jimat minyak.rega 88k vios S tu apalah sangat,kira ok klu nak banding dgn persona.
    cuma nak pesan kat semua beli la viva elite ni.(untuk org yg ada duit).
    klu kokak tak de duit beli la saga or persona.

    ______________

    look at their time…
    kantoi same person maaaaa~~
    ckp sorg2,puji sorg2=org gile
    hua3

  331. Mathgrind said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 5:27 pm

    MUX said,
    July 26, 2009 @ 12:43 am

    hahaha…
    aku xkisah pn ape pendapat korang..
    aku ad viva sebiji..
    dan aku dah ada caldina n c-rv…
    hehe..
    tetap suport malaysia..
    go viva go…!

    Mamat nieh gila saleman p2 yang bodo…cukuplahh memalukan diri ko la bodo….viva elite memang suck

  332. alcore said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 5:27 pm

    chiklee said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:49 pm<———-

    keta viva nie memang lah mahal sikit kalu nak bandingkan harga dia ngan saga. tapi harus ingat viva nie minyak dia jimat bangat,(intown used)keta saga tu, minyak dia tuan tuan sendiri mau ingatlah. pada saya viva nie untuk 2nd car sahaja. maksud dia owner tersebut dah ada keta lain la. jadi harus ingat onwer tersebut berkemampuan untuk memiliki keta yang kompak tapi eksklusif (ada semua ciri ciri abs, airbags ect…
    so kesimpulan dia sapa2 yang baru nak beli keta dan hanya itu lah keta yang mampu dimiliki buat lah pilihan yang bijak.

    ambik lahcontoh ini vios 1.5 rm88k lawan pesona 1.6 sekitar 60k (aku agak2 je nie) kenapa lebih ramai org beli vios ???????????

    jawapan bukan sebab kualiti tapi sebab org yang beli vios ada duit,,,,
    dan org yang pakai pesona tu tak mampu nak beli vios (tak de duit )

    ______________
    ray said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:56 pm<———–

    saya memang setuju sesangat ngan chiklee tue!!!!
    sebab saya pun pakai vios.memang pergghhh jimat minyak.rega 88k vios S tu apalah sangat,kira ok klu nak banding dgn persona.
    cuma nak pesan kat semua beli la viva elite ni.(untuk org yg ada duit).
    klu kokak tak de duit beli la saga or persona.

    ______________

    hahaha aku baru perasan dalam ni ada orang gila..
    ckp sorang2, pastu puji sorang2 mmg orang gila..
    terdesak sangat gamaknya..

  333. memeranglaut said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 6:03 pm

    AVEN said,
    July 27, 2009 @ 1:55 pm

    MUX said,

    ..no wonder la sbb aku engineer manufacturing in auto.. <– (BULLSHIT!) ..gua pnah involve dgn TUV kat german la.. <– (IN YOUR DREAM LAH..) ..aku da ada toyota caldina gt4.. <– (BULLSHIT! Hahahaha.. just keep on dreaming..) wife aku pkai nissan latio impul,. <– (BULLSHIT! U don’t even married) viva pn aku ada.. <– (BULLSHIT! The only ride u have is your father’s EX5)

    KID, DON’T FOOLING AROUND LAH..

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MS7ANl6a
    Raven,
    you forgot to add another car..
    the C-RV..(it a honda i suppose)
    total 4 car. No wonder MUX said 45K for 4 wheel koffin Bibah is nothing. RM45K?nothing la..like RM 45 only in our standard. Demn rich la you MUX. Rich, intelligent some more engineer in auto manufacturing.
    go bibah go…
    go bibah go..

  334. mamat puchong said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 7:41 pm

    There you go,

    MUX….. don’t make a fool out of yourself
    and most importantly don’t be a stupid liar

  335. knoxx said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 8:26 pm

    chiklee said,

    July 25, 2009 @ 7:49 pm<———-

    keta viva nie memang lah mahal sikit kalu nak bandingkan harga dia ngan saga. tapi harus ingat viva nie minyak dia jimat bangat,(intown used)keta saga tu, minyak dia tuan tuan sendiri mau ingatlah. pada saya viva nie untuk 2nd car sahaja. maksud dia owner tersebut dah ada keta lain la. jadi harus ingat onwer tersebut berkemampuan untuk memiliki keta yang kompak tapi eksklusif (ada semua ciri ciri abs, airbags ect…
    so kesimpulan dia sapa2 yang baru nak beli keta dan hanya itu lah keta yang mampu dimiliki buat lah pilihan yang bijak.

    ambik lahcontoh ini vios 1.5 rm88k lawan pesona 1.6 sekitar 60k (aku agak2 je nie) kenapa lebih ramai org beli vios ???????????

    jawapan bukan sebab kualiti tapi sebab org yang beli vios ada duit,,,,
    dan org yang pakai pesona tu tak mampu nak beli vios (tak de duit )

    —————————————————————-

    Kalau berdasarkan pendangan ekonomi lah, Statement ko takleh pakai lah.. buka semua orang ada duit akan beli keta import.. kalu ada duit lebih lebih baik beli rumah dari kereta.. Harga akan sentiasa naik. Kereta pas beli je terus jatuh harga..

    Kena terima hakikat harga kereta ini tak sesuai dengan spec yang diberi. Lebih baik buat deposit rumah daripada bazir duit kat viva nie..

    Ada orang duit banyak pun beli proton sbb suka pada design (ikut org jgk), dan nampak performance semakin baik daripada dulu. Duit lebih tue drg belilah rumah/renovation ke..

  336. k.c said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 9:17 pm

    it is over price….

  337. k.c said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 9:18 pm

    mahal

  338. k.c said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 9:18 pm

    expensive

  339. josh91 said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 10:02 pm

    emmm,oklah cantik,tpi mahalah!

  340. Rhim said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 10:12 pm

    Viva Elite is awesome and afffordable.Congratulation for the upgrade model and and I believe there will be more positive reviews on this model after this. Keep up the good works P2.

  341. tiwasok said,

    July 27, 2009 @ 10:12 pm

    Mr. Mux,

    Is it C-RV or CR-V? Which spec?

    You’re a rich engineer I suppose since you can own Toyota Caldina GT4, Honda CR-V, and a viva (?).. Wow..how much is your salary? All these car combined worth more than RM400K yet you choose Viva for err..fuel efficiency?

    Since you drive these expensive and elite car, I’m a bit puzzled when you said that RM45k for a Viva is worth it? I mean, you should have notice the difference in quality between these cars and Viva.

    I’ve met a lot of rich people. When I said a lot, I meant literally yet non of them drive Viva. The cheapest being Myvi only. You’re an odd one I would say..You did proclaim explicitly that you’re rich with the range of cars that you have..I dunno la kan..

    But the fact that Viva is an overpriced car doesn’t have anything to do with your richness..

  342. Hariee said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 1:17 am

    So 100% obvious copy cat Grand Livina! n a pinch of Innova! ….
    im jsut waiting or rather wait for Savvy Elite for sure it’ll be way worth a buy! then this Looks on its value! & the other hand 25K without radio is totally ridiculous

  343. initial R said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 9:03 am

    1 of my friend said when viva enter the market that the car are the practical & built for malaysian ppl that average income monthly RM1200 below. Ok… fine to me.. but the question is it is still cheap if BX model with out nothing came about RM25k ?. MUX boleh jawap soalan nie sbb ko ada bibah kat umah kan ?. Ok… kalau save minyak la kan ?. Pernah ke viva nie buat long distance KL>JB non stop tanpa ada masalah atau berhenti isi minyak. The fact like this, my wife savvy…. ok. Start from KL we pam RM50 that get 5 fuel bar & before it almost empty. We start from KL non stop to JB average 90>100km/h. Terkejut yang minyak hanya turun 2 bar aje lepas sampai JB. That i call it fuel efficiance. However my friend used viva follow us to JB also pump RM30+RM20, do same speed but he have to stop coz of uncomfort with driving position & refuel, but he manage to reach JB after 1/2 hour after we arrive. The car sip 3 bar of fuel. I tak pasti plak kalau meter kami berlainan setting, tapi belum tu kawan i kata viva setting semua sama cam D. So no comment…..

  344. 460 said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 10:40 am

    no comment on viva :-) but for those who said saga made up from cheap material than viva, please do not do such assumption. there are many ways to cut the cost such as share components and make it simpler, so easier to make tooling and reduce cost. use less sound dampening material also reduce cost and ommit any unnecessary or creature comfort.

    if saga include dual airbags, abs,ebd, bebd, cps engine, the price will be away than rm50k, and anyway, saga se nvh is better than previous one.

    em, one tips to reduce fc is by revving not more than 2.5k rpm. it shud be around 2k and 2.5k rpm. try to feel on which rpm is allowable for u to change the gear

  345. Engineer said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 11:02 am

    Flying solo said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 8:43 am

    when buying a car, of course the price will be our main concern. but think about it, what’s the use of buying a cheaper car but the engine or performance is so bad? i would rather spend money to buy something expensive than buy something cheaper but at the end of the day, u still have to spend more for the maintenance cost. (this explains why people send their Proton cars for services in the very 1st month -> Proton produces 150, 000 cars in a certain period. 100, 000 of the cars were sent back for repair in the first month. Perodua produces 50, 000 cars in the same period. Only 50 of the cars were sent back for repair in the first month. Why? — because P2 cars are well known for their good performance
    p/s I own a Myvi SE. Fantastic! Go test drive la, then baru komen!!

    I own Persona. Very stable at high speed compare to Myvi coz Myvi cannot catch me when i drove 160 km/h. ha ha ha….

  346. budlee said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 12:00 pm

    i do hope when people compare cars, they compare the features that are built in the cars..

    a full spec viva is expensive compared to a BARE BONE spec myvi and persona, but then these people probably don’t know how airbags and abs works to save life.

    its the quality not the quantity that matters, but i guess it depends on the people

    but not matter, we could have 1000 people banning this Viva, but the normal people out there have no problem…

    here is a riddle for you

    *bila kancil/viva menjadi babi?.
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    . ketika anda hendak mencari tempat letak kereta, dan apabila akhirnya anda menemui tempat kosong, rupa-rupanya ade sebuah kancil/viva di situ. Babi punyer kancil/viva :D

  347. farghmee said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 12:26 pm

    budlee…hahaha! very funny indeed XD

  348. zasty apple said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 1:26 pm

    pergh…..hrge mcm kete jepun 2nd tue…..lebih baik bli kete yg nmpk sporty….mazda …toyota …honda city pun nmpk cun beb….tp mnyk korang mmg jmat r …ak x nafikan …tp hrge kurang la sket…klu org keje kampung lg 10 tahun bru dpt bli kete ni sbb hrge dh trun….. den bg pndapat yo!! ak stdent mnat kete ni tp mhl dowh…klu mrah blambak org bli….dlm 20k-35k bg sume model dh….x cye cbe jual……dh laku gle babeng cri ak bg awards ke k…..xpun tggu ak jd manager…salam~

  349. momoki said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 1:33 pm

    ok aku plan mmg nak BELI VIVA ..
    nampak viva ELITE ni terus jatuh cinta lah..
    showroom mana ada kluarkan kete nie…
    aku tinggal kat bandar tasik selatan.

  350. namiras said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

    ..he..he…viva elite untuk ‘kumpulan elit’ yang dah berkubur tu ciptaan kru…..ahli2nya pun skrg dah ramai bercerai-berai…..

  351. tiwasok said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 3:07 pm

    budlee said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 12:00 pm

    i do hope when people compare cars, they compare the features that are built in the cars..

    a full spec viva is expensive compared to a BARE BONE spec myvi and persona, but then these people probably don’t know how airbags and abs works to save life.

    its the quality not the quantity that matters, but i guess it depends on the people

    but not matter, we could have 1000 people banning this Viva, but the normal people out there have no problem…

    here is a riddle for you

    *bila kancil/viva menjadi babi?.
    .
    ketika anda hendak mencari tempat letak kereta, dan apabila akhirnya anda menemui tempat kosong, rupa-rupanya ade sebuah kancil/viva di situ. Babi punyer kancil/viva
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Ok..so why are you comparing a full spec Viva with a bare bone Myvi or Persona? And why Myvi or Persona?

    Most people wouldn’t buy a full spec Viva. That left them with non-safety features spec of Viva. Why? cause Viva is too overpriced, full spec or not. With the same price for a not-so-full spec Viva they can buy a full spec Saga..Ironically, Saga is better built than Viva (be it elite or bare bone)..

    About the kancil being called babi..yeah..so true..but not Viva since it’s bigger than kancil.

    And no, it’s not about viva vs saga…It’s just that Viva IS an overpriced car.

  352. peminat perodua said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 3:18 pm

    aku dah pun beli satu viva elite,harga mahal pun tak apa,puas hati.daripada beli saga blm ,banyak masalah ,aku dah tanya staff proton dia orang kata banyak customer komen pasal iafm rosak, hidup perodua.

  353. Dy BP said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 3:41 pm

    Walla…new design..not that new lar..but to compare proton n produa better buy produa..maybe the price is a bit expensive but maintenance..jimat..rather than proton..my savvy just done a major service.. RM 500++..Plus undetected auto indicator light problem..Haiyo….

  354. myy said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

    kenak la keta kat m’sia tok mahal gilak owh???? nang kerajaan tok sik kesian ngn rakyat daknya..

  355. saki77 said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 4:34 pm

    totally agree with tiwasok…
    overpriced….
    and if you put ten air bags in a car…if the chassis if not strong…the air bag still cannot save ur life…the chassis will crush u like sardin…u can refer on youtube for chinese car safety test…terrible..although got air bags…all passengers an the driver died (simulation la…)

  356. AjidGX2 said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

    mahal sangatlah kete nie dahlah kecik!

  357. Dy BP said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

    Well..a lil bit comment for malaysia car and all other manufacturer..suppose to diffrentiate price, they shouldn’t jeopardizing the safety features but the accessories..Air bag, ebd, abs should be a standard features for the car..Exora had made an improvement by not jeopardizing the safety features to diffrentiate price..1 day Malaysia govt should set a law to car manufacturer proton, produa, etc, safety features is a must to sell car in Malaysia..Can you imagine viva bx with abs, airbag n ebd..for sure premium can’t sell :)

  358. Cva said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 5:27 pm

    I agreed…Saga 1.3 is really worth buying.
    Why….it compact and solid/price moderate for medium size/pick up average/design moderate….monthly average as well…compare to my 2001 iswara monhtly 590 for 6 years…

  359. fauzi said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

    Have you all been to perodua sales or service center and you will notice that there are other model (proton pun ada) park at their center and it belong to their workers/salesman. ask la them pasai apa depa tak pakai perodua kalau depa kata kereta depa murah dan baguih sangat terutaman dia punya selasman.

  360. Cloaked_Wixard said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 5:39 pm

    I booked Viva on 19 July and the salesman told me there is going to be some facelift on my Viva 850 on 23 July.Well, on 24 July I went online to search for the information on it and discovered this Viva Elite.Without second thought I called up the salesman to change my order to this new one(manual). Although it will be taking me additional of RM 7000 on it but I feel I am willing to pay for it compare to Viva 850.
    Actually my target would be Satria Neo but I really need a car for now. My opinion is that the Viva Elite of manual and auto one could be considered affordable and having a reasonable price but the full spec one is really overpriced.

  361. JULIAN_LEE said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 5:40 pm

    perodua is expert in making expensive crap cars… their next crap car is the perodua mpv wif papan seats :D

  362. memeranglaut said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 6:17 pm

    Walla…new design..not that new lar..but to compare proton n produa better buy produa..maybe the price is a bit expensive but maintenance..jimat..rather than proton..my savvy just done a major service.. RM 500++..Plus undetected auto indicator light problem..Haiyo…
    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MY169Pbw
    Dy BP,
    Major services for perodua in SC also quite high lah but not as high as proton savvy. You should buy viva 1st than you will know langit tinggi ke rendah. With thin layer of door , once cloosed clang. And you get extra features, tong-tong sound when heavy rain. Other than you have to craw like siput when you see cornering. great features. Once involve in big accident, you will know the surprise features. (if you live lah).

  363. Prismo said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 8:10 pm

    VIVA… Cheap to maintain.. when the car was brand new maybe… but when the time it’s need to replace the clutch set (clutch plate, cover, bearing), then u will know that the price was damn hell expensive.. try to imaging, when u need to change JUST the CLUTCH SET, the whole engine need to be take off from the engine bay and that will raise up the labour charge..

  364. Love to Cilok said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 8:20 pm

    Produa Kancil/Viva good car for cilok-cilok in the city… for short distance… but for long journey, never use his car.. too danger..
    viva should be cheaper, rm15,000-rm18,000 seems ok… for sure the produa sales increase again.. but for rm25,00-rm45,000… sure customer will choose saga or 2nd hand car…
    with rm45,000..can get 2nd hand Honda City 2003 already… huh..

  365. alcore said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 9:10 pm

    peminat perodua said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 3:18 pm

    aku dah pun beli satu viva elite,harga mahal pun tak apa,puas hati.daripada beli saga blm ,banyak masalah ,aku dah tanya staff proton dia orang kata banyak customer komen pasal iafm rosak, hidup perodua.

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MYjQe879

    ________________________________________________________

    tahniah ler dah beli viva..
    lepas ni ko akan hadapi masalah KARAT dengan viva..

  366. k.c said,

    July 28, 2009 @ 9:41 pm

    looks ok… but mahal!!!!

    1.0 manual…. RM39k here!!!

    but….

    No spoiler? Walau!!! come on lah… at least give a spoiler

    No ABS? Walau!!!

    No EBD? Wah Walau!!

    CD player don’t support USB!!! Walau….

    Mahal!!!

    If got Discount about RM2500 + spoiler, then I will buy 1….

  367. maiSto said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 1:38 am

    apa punya transfomasilah baik beli honda jazz or beli product malaysia tak salah beli proton blm saga lg murah luas blh pasang sport rim 17′ inc leather sit lg tuu… biar pun skirthing dia tak sebrapa… 4 me no way i’m westhing my money to buy a such tink like this… dah la buatla yg baru yg blh kita nampak transfomasinya…

  368. maiSto said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 2:17 am

    ok viva safe minyak tapi still mahal savvy pun apa kurang safe minyak ape murah lg, saga blm pun safe minyak jg bg ketegori yg sewaktu dgnya biar pun proton dikatakan bnyk masa’ela tp bg saya terpulang kpd individu itu sendiri, tiada yg perfect bg ke dua2 jenama ni sama jer… Bg saya kurangkanla beban rakyat malaysia ni da pun ekonomi skrng ni merosot. Tp viva still mahal… THINK AGAIN… peace!

  369. Elvis said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 2:51 am

    Agree with some comments here. For a small car with c.c less than 1.3 selling at 40k some more, forget it. I dont need power steering for a small car. It could be dangerous too coz it’s very light and with power steering to easy to steer or in this case oversteer, accident comes to my mind. Some more with power steering, less power for driving and for air con. You end up with underpower driving, less colder air con and steering that too easy to manouver. At the same price i go for second hand cars like Toyota, Honda or Nissan.

  370. ejon said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 3:04 am

    laaa.. nama je gempak.. viva elite.. radio cap ayam jugak

  371. memeranglaut said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 9:17 am

    aku dah pun beli satu viva elite,harga mahal pun tak apa,puas hati.daripada beli saga blm ,banyak masalah ,aku dah tanya staff proton dia orang kata banyak customer komen pasal iafm rosak, hidup perodua
    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MbeReWPI

    congratulation for your purchase,
    Mahal byk skit tetapi berkualiti. Hahaha. Don’t be supprise that you will find quality problem in near future. You will be amazed how high quality is the bibah. IAFM rosak will effect nothing to your car performance cuma anoying tak-tak sound. bottom line, replacement is free. do your services routine, replace it for free.
    You will find lot of free features comes with your purchase of bibah. Be patient and you will surely find it. Perodua is the ‘bestest’ on the whole wide world. plus the highly branded stereo system courtesy of Perodua. Great value for money.
    go bibah go.
    go bibah go.
    dari pengguna perodua,

  372. noobie@yahoo.com said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 1:10 pm

    bodoh sangat bagi aku siapa yang dok
    kecoh2 pasal jimat dia yg jimat.
    dah kereta kecik,cc kecik,dah memang la sah sah
    tak makan minyak lebih.

  373. SAVOC CRU100 said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

    ejai perodua said,
    July 23, 2009 @ 11:39 pm

    kadang2 mcm kelakar baca komen kat atas. hakikatnya, keputusan membeli atau tak – 100 persen atas tangan pembeli.

    aku yakin, kalau betul pembeli beli kereta hanya disebabkan harga, patutnya proton dah lama potong perodua sejak diaorang ada saga blm dan persona. hakikatnya? tidak. perodua menjadi pengeluar kereta nasional no. wahid 3 tahun berturut2. ini bukan kehebatan perodua, tapi hasil keyakinan orang ramai terhadap jenama perodua.

    bukan semua orang nak beli kereta sedan yg besar macam bmw, persona dll. aku yakin, ramai kawan2 yang buat posting di atas, ada kawan, isteri, awek, adik, pak mertua yg kalau diberi keta persona, tak nak bawak.. besar sangat katanya..

    so, apa pilihannya? beli la viva. kalo kaya beli la smart for two..

    fikirkanlah.. jangan melemparkan tuduhan tidak berasas…

    org bukan saja2 nak lemparkan komen x berasas.tp pikir2 la sama ngan harga yang ditawarkan. adakah berbaloi. dgn Cc yg rendah.pada masa yg sama blh dpt harga & size yg besar utk kegunaan harian. tol x. kalau takat nk tangkap muat ja.nk sales laku ja.tp kehendak pengguna ada pikir.

  374. intermilan said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 3:16 pm

    bandingkan viva elite ezi @ RM44,9000
    dengan …
    naza (peugeot) 206 bestari – current promo price ~RM44,000 (nett).

    Perodua surely have a fat profit margin for this Elite viva.

  375. VV said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

    Any good reason to buy this car instead of 49k persona, unless i’m crazy…

  376. KeMo said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 4:21 pm

    Good job perodua for the effort.
    Customer satisfactory will be 1st priority.
    Who dont buy p2 cars is not a customer…
    so y bother>?

    hahaha

  377. Elvis said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 4:26 pm

    I think this viva elite ezi end up like nautika also. Very expensive, no leather sit some more. What’s the differents with standard viva with are much cheaper. Or better buy Viva basic…finish car loan…then upgrade using japan parts including engine…for 44k..better use that money to buy second hand Honda, Toyota or even Mercedez Benz….

  378. Elvis said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

    I dont know about you guys, but i see so many used cars nowadays which are very much better condition coz most are only used few years. In fact, i also beginning to think why we so anxious to replace our cars coz Malaysia happens to be selling more cars compare to Thailand, Indonesia or Phillipine. Remember we are only 27 million in population, maybe 18 millions are working but the sells figures annually is amazing!! Maybe i should keep this ‘open secret’ to myself…hehehehe….

  379. intermilan said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 5:02 pm

    Rasanya tiada NCAP rating assessment (safety and crash worthiness) untuk kereta Viva ni..

    Jadi agak – agaknya, NCAP rating untuk viva elite ni berapa ? 1 star? 2 star? no star? or 4/5 star? Wow…

    Sekali pandang, amat merisaukan sebab Waja UK spec pun dapat 3 star saja untuk NCAP rating.

    Exora dikhabarkan memdapat rating equivalent to 4 star tapi no official test or result is published. Macam main2 pula.

    Selain harga yg mampu milik, Keselamatan harus diutamakan.

    Chassis n body kalau macam aluminium foil , ada 10 airbags pun tak guna langsung.

    Govt patut wajibkan semua kereta yg dijual di M’sia melalui dan publish its safety and crash rating, either ikut Europe (Euro NCAP) atau Japan system.

    Malang tak berbau. Jadi siapa yg mahu bertemu malang dalam kenderaan yg tidak diketahui tahap perlindungannya atau mempunyai tahap perlindungan yang rendah?

    Memang keputusan belian 100% di tangan pembeli, tapi tak salah jadi pembeli bijak. Ingatlah orang yang tersayang… Tak pun sayangilah diri anda sendiri.

  380. gokibin said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 5:50 pm

    Looks much better than initial offering. Love d grille. Jus wished they fited it wit d door knob u can open from top or bottom, jus like d saga. Otherwise this should be stylish enuf for ppl like me who cant afford a mini. Muahahaha…

  381. Elvis said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 6:44 pm

    Intermilan made a very good comment. We dont just look at the price and few add ons and all the sudden so hardcore on our own opinion about particular car, in this case Viva Elite. What’s the NCAP rating for this car anyway? Any difference from Viva basic? Many death already from accidents mostly from P2 and P1 cars. Safety is so neglected in P1 and P2 that i am thinking whether our government is only interested to make huge profits from our lifes. I hope that those driving P1 and P2 not to speed above 90 km/h. You may laugh out loud but i hope you still keep you head if you meet accident at that speed. I already personally seen bodies putus2 in kancils. God Bless….

  382. Prismo said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 7:06 pm

    Tata Nano crash test…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahw7-KarkWw

    PERODUA VIVA bila lagi?

  383. wajara melaya said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 8:48 pm

    jgn nk kecoh2 hal ni..lantak korang le nk beli ape,tapi mcm nabil kata la..lu pikir le sendiri..beli le barangan buatan malaysia..xkira le produa ke proton ke sama je..tapi beli le brg yg berkualiti beb..heheheh…aku pun pakai viva gak..viva extreme..lg jimat minyak dn canggih..viva maju jaya…

  384. peroempat said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 10:38 pm

    Perodua Kancil – The rebadged third/fourth generation of the Daihatsu Mira.
    Perodua Kelisa – The rebadged fifth generation of the Daihatsu Mira.
    Perodua Viva – The rebadged sixth generation of the Daihatsu Mira.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daihatsu_Mira

    OMG, Viva Elite = Kelisa Elite = Kancil Elite = RM44,900

    OMFG, Perodua rebadged 3 time generation of Mira to 3 new model!!!

  385. evil percivel said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 12:14 am

    basicly its still the same car

  386. Prismo said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 7:54 am

    Nama je buatan malaysia.. tapi yg untungnya org luar… kera dihutan disusukan, anak dirumah kelaparan… hish…

  387. EYESORE said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 8:15 am

    wajara melaya said,

    July 29, 2009 @ 8:48 pm

    jgn nk kecoh2 hal ni..lantak korang le nk beli ape,tapi mcm nabil kata la..lu pikir le sendiri..beli le barangan buatan malaysia..xkira le produa ke proton ke sama je..tapi beli le brg yg berkualiti beb..heheheh…aku pun pakai viva gak..viva extreme..lg jimat minyak dn canggih..viva maju jaya…

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MhCVUQ38
    ——————————-

    viva berkualiti… no la… I hate viva so much… but then my sister just bought a viva two weeks ago… damn.. like a slap on my face… but then I got chance to test the viva…

    hmm can’t forget the noisy engine sound (dvvt meh?), engine sound intrusion into the cabin, floating feeling @80kmph, “clang” sound when closing doors, thin door, seat too high …

    now built quality… gaps & gaps horrible, ugly seat fabric, rear windscreen senget (dunno can complain n replace or not) urghh…

  388. bon said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 11:30 am

    hidup viva

  389. man said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 11:35 am

    Biarpun ada yang mengata viva,
    namun viva tiada sifat pengalah

  390. Fridz said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 12:18 pm

    dear initial R,

    Wah, you get only 2bars down ke?pergh…the best figure i hv made is 3bars down.thats is half-tank KL-JB journey with my Savvy..(mybe bcoz of my 110-120km/h speed range kot)

    Viva expensive..kill your own Myvi..bengong!!

  391. hizral ashraq.b.hisham said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 12:58 pm

    VIVA ELITE???NEW FACELIFT???ADA POWER STEERING??..ha ha ha….Harga 45k???Kenapa tak letak harga lagi mahal???

  392. BPJ said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 3:44 pm

    cantik dan baik.

    yang complain pasal viva tu tak ada duit pun nak beli.
    buang masa je layan.

    kalau dah miskin..jgn guna kereta lah. guna basikal

  393. farghmee said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

    BPJ, so ada $ kena beli?
    aku ada $ pn xnk beli.
    kalu bg free aku jual blk..resale value “tinggi” :P

    kalu “miskin”, beli kete lain.
    viva elite utk org “banyak” $ & “sayang” nyawa.

    complaining & commenting are 2 different things.

  394. memeranglaut said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 4:32 pm

    Biarpun ada yang mengata viva,
    namun viva tiada sifat pengalah
    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0MjHW4uWO

    betul tu…viva tiada sifat pengalah. Keter besi nipis mcm kertas tu, mestilah takde sifat pengalah mcm org. Cuma kalah kalo accident teruk aje. Keter kalah takpela, jgn tuan empunya kalah sekali. Keter bleh beli baru, tuan dia…tak dapek den nak nolong kalo accident teruk-teruk.
    go bibah go…
    go bibah go…
    hidup bibah yang berkualiti tinggi….

  395. Elvis said,

    July 30, 2009 @ 5:02 pm

    I can buy 5 Viva Elite cash but what the point? Coz if Viva basic and Viva Elite are similar in built and safety standard. The point that some commentator want to bring is whether is it worth to buy Viva Elite at 44K? Or, may as well buy standard Myvi at similar price! And bigger too! Maybe person like BPJ used to been brainwash about Barangan Buatan Malaysia without understanding or checking or accepting other people point of view. I know a so-called ‘local’ brand but actually fully Korea cars been sold as Malaysian made. Until its buyers realize that only the brand are pasted on the car. Naza cars anyone?

  396. zack said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 2:00 am

    totally..very xpensive,,,rugi kalau beli…perodua mau untung besar ka??? persona is better than vivi elite la….

  397. Prismo said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 9:51 am

    err… BPJ,
    cantik dan baik.. keselamatan mcm mana? aku ada duitlah, dah beli keta yg beharga lebih RM60k hampir 7 thn lalu… kancil bodoh yg kerap rosak pun aku ada… ko nak beli kancil aku tak?? murah je aku jual.. RM10k je walaupun aku tahu RESALE VALUE dia TINGGI!! <–muahahaha!! :D

    Err… ko ada duit ke? kalo tak naik beskal je lah…

    ya, agree with farghmee.. complaining & commenting are 2 different things

  398. En. said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 12:11 pm

    no need to bash mane2 company… understand engineering first… than give ideas…

    dont just simply talk without knowledge…

    I graduate as automotive engineer, working as manufacturing engineer in national auto industry, experienced both national car company environment…

    what i can say is, both has pro and con… not that p2 is so great and not that p1 is so weak… my opinion is… let p2 do market research, p1 do engineering design, p2 alter on the cosmetic, p1 ready the plant, p2 do the production….

    its good isnt it?

  399. memeranglaut said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 12:45 pm

    yang cakap cantik baik berkualiti dan menarik tu….it either Perodua SA, working somehow with perodua or plain ignorant driver. The fact that they can’t never deny…overpriced bibah 4 wheel koffin with DVVT. Cannggih beb.

  400. chor said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 12:57 pm

    nazri said,
    July 24, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

    kepada sesiape yg rase saga BLM lg murah pegi beli saga la..
    bagi tempoh enam bulan je kat owner saga ni..
    tau tak, proton mengunakan material paling murah dalam penghasilan saga..
    so no wonder la harga saga murah..
    biar mahal sikit janji puas hati..
    so go viva go..!!

    KESIAN MANUSIA X BERPELAJARAN MCM NIE..MALU SIAL

  401. P2_permanent_basher said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 2:48 pm

    Congratulation to those who bought this viva.
    When something bad happen to your love ones just remember this clearly
    ” I TOLD YOU SO! ” :)
    Even they install airbags, they are only in the front, what about side impact?
    I admit that there isnt any local cars that provides side airbags, but to compensate that, they build bigger and tougher build on the sides.
    Comparing apple with apple, VIVA and SAVVY, SAVVY metal build quality and design is better and is safer for your kids and love ones.
    So as i say over and over again, if u value FC, easy to park,maintainence, etc…. its fine by me, but then something bad happen, remember my words above :)
    God bless the unfortunates.

  402. Toshiharu Imanishi_ex said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 3:18 pm

    MUX said,
    July 25, 2009 @ 11:10 am

    kepada saki77..
    no wonder la sbb aku engineer manufacturing in auto..
    tempat keje secret la…
    so aku tengok je dah tau material ape saga pkai…
    weh gua pnah involve dgn TUV kat german la..
    ape2 pun..viva have low price in maintenance..
    viva..kereta yg paling practical..
    go viva go..!!

    Viva is the worst car. That’s why i prefer Lexus LS460 L before. I regret because sponge was used to replace many moulds all around.

  403. initial R said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    see savvy accident
    http://paultan.org/archives/2005/08/12/proton-savvy-accident/

  404. EricG said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    P2_permanent_basher said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 2:48 pm

    Congratulation to those who bought this viva.
    When something bad happen to your love ones just remember this clearly
    ” I TOLD YOU SO! ” :)
    Even they install airbags, they are only in the front, what about side impact?
    I admit that there isnt any local cars that provides side airbags, but to compensate that, they build bigger and tougher build on the sides.
    Comparing apple with apple, VIVA and SAVVY, SAVVY metal build quality and design is better and is safer for your kids and love ones.
    So as i say over and over again, if u value FC, easy to park,maintainence, etc…. its fine by me, but then something bad happen, remember my words above :)
    God bless the unfortunates.

    —————————————————————-

    i bought a mt elite and u MOFO, im not that rich like u guys here. 2nd hand car? im dont want to end up spending extra money if breakdown happens.

    im grateful to God that i have a car and Prayers are my ABS, EBD, BA, VSC, and all sort of safety “devices”.

  405. fastcx said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 7:18 pm

    EricG, i dont think viva comes with vsc. with that soft shell crab ur driving, u really need lots of prayers for not being hit at all…good luck chap

  406. P2_permanent_basher said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 12:13 am

    EricG,
    its alright, u can scold MOFO to me. U can be ignorant, its your choice, im not stopping u. But when it happends, just remember my words… Good luck and may god bless u at your desperate time.
    Do u have to be rich to buy other safer cars? jeezz

  407. EricG said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 1:01 am

    Name me 1 car that is really safe within the price range of rm37k? plus im just a student n working part time and earn rm300 per month. Luck has nothing to do with God.

  408. satat said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 9:55 am

    WTF is the problem with these p2 bashers? If you don’t like the new viva then pegi main jauh2 la. No need to bash kaw2. An for those who worship the kononye murah dan bagus BLM, u’re all just plain ignorant and blinded by the price tag. IMHO, BLM sucks big time. Personally driven it for a whole month and it somehow has that *i feel cheap* feeling. I’m no engineer, but the BLM is like either u drive fast or u don’t move at all, where’s the feel to that? I’ve driven bigger cars than the BLM but all of em don’t feel that unlogically heavy like the BLM. I own a viva for a year already and regularly drives it at 130km/h ++ on highways (of course le 130, 1.0 je maa) No problem to that at all. Well, maybe all of these is just me. This is my personal and probably biased but real experience. To all p2/viva bashers, if you ever had a real chance driving this car for a while, it could probably change ur mind.

    P2 FTW!

  409. P2_permanent_basher said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 11:05 am

    That is so simple, the saga and savvy.

  410. memeranglaut said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

    EricG,
    It is obvious in this discussion, there is number of choice other than bibah for under 37K. For new car,there is Savvy and Saga. Pick one. Luck is everything have to do with God. why people invent ABS, BA, EBD and VSC. Because the car having too much power or need electronic assistant to help in efficient braking and Handling. ABS, BA and EBD will not help strengthening your bibah chassis in any event of accident but merely help with the braking process. If you are talking about VSC, then it is different story, but sorry no VSC in bibah. A good handling and well tuned chassis need no VSC for example Lotus Sportcar ( correct me if i am wrong).
    A 4 wheel milo tin with EBD, VSC, SRS, ABS and BA features will go flat in event of serious acciddent. Why? The most important thing, the passive safety system which is not availabe electronicly and that is the chassis strength. NCAP rating system is one example where the passive system are really tested for good.
    Get it? ityou really do earn 300 a month, forget about buying a car. Use public transport.

  411. Elvis said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 1:03 pm

    Hahaha, memeranglaut! You are rite dude! Hahaha, earn RM300 wanna drive a car? Not enough for petrol ler…wanna buy car some more…hahahaha…or EricG, you buy motorcycle better….maybe save some of you RM300 permonth on better things like actually going out for a date…hahaha…

  412. abe96 said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 1:58 pm

    EricG said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 1:01 am

    Name me 1 car that is really safe within the price range of rm37k? plus im just a student n working part time and earn rm300 per month. Luck has nothing to do with God.

    @nd Hand Savvy year 2004 @ 2005 only rm 20,000 – rm25,000

  413. abe96 said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 2:06 pm

    satat said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 9:55 am

    WTF is the problem with these p2 bashers? If you don’t like the new viva then pegi main jauh2 la. No need to bash kaw2. An for those who worship the kononye murah dan bagus BLM, u’re all just plain ignorant and blinded by the price tag. IMHO, BLM sucks big time. Personally driven it for a whole month and it somehow has that *i feel cheap* feeling. I’m no engineer, but the BLM is like either u drive fast or u don’t move at all, where’s the feel to that? I’ve driven bigger cars than the BLM but all of em don’t feel that unlogically heavy like the BLM. I own a viva for a year already and regularly drives it at 130km/h ++ on highways (of course le 130, 1.0 je maa) No problem to that at all. Well, maybe all of these is just me. This is my personal and probably biased but real experience. To all p2/viva bashers, if you ever had a real chance driving this car for a while, it could probably change ur mind.

    P2 FTW!


    we are talking about safety lor.. using light weight steel.. no Crash Test Video… can u please provide to use a crash test video with your Viva.. u drive so called 130km/h and then at the corner u dont belok2 until u crash will the tembok. please record it in a video and post it in youtube.. i hope u still alive after the crash test..hehe..
    u proud with ur viva huh? my sister viva feel like going to fly when i drive 100km/j..

  414. P2_permanent_basher said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 2:30 pm

    memeranglaut,
    good point pointed out! passive safety system takes precedence over active system. look at initial R savvy accident, the cabin is just slightly damaged and its commented that you would probably walk out safely. Probably this point has been re-illiterated many times, NCAP rating is important in western countries, and marketing people will always stress it out when their product achieves a high NCAP rating.
    with this viva out, would we see a hike in sales of the saga or even the savvy?
    EricG,
    I am guessing that u purchased this car probably for the reason that perodua is more reliable than any other local car manufacturer. But then I havent heard much complaints of the savvy and the saga, (besides the recall of the savvy’s tyres or something a while ago)….
    guys correct me if i am wrong.

    Also you might want want to research more, and not buy a car for the sake of buying a car and with rm300 y would u stress yourself by buying a car? Wait till u graduate then only seek out your 1st car.
    PS: I didnt have a car till I found my 1st job… :S

  415. EricG said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 4:46 pm

    hehe p2 parmanetbasher,

    I have to buy a car, public transportation in sabah isnt that quite good in peninsular. so, savvy is okay but the then design at the rear is quite funny. as for the saga, its a big car n im not interested in big cars at the moment but, i just took a ride with my frens saga, the electronic esp the windows are constantly problematic. but wat the heck, blame the tax again.

  416. P2_permanent_basher said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 5:55 pm

    EricG,
    My parents used to own a viva a few months back.
    only after have driven 20k km, the front shaft got cranking sound d when turning,
    the driver side power window control, cannot control the front passenger seat window d,
    send many times to the S.C but they still cant fix it, acc shop can fix :S
    frustrated with the car d, sold it after having it for 9 months… then bought a vios j

  417. tiwasok said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 7:18 pm

    EricG said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0MvZzQhd4

    EricG said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 1:01 am

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0MvaCfTfI

    _________________________________________________________________________

    RM300 a month? yet you bought Viva Elite? well you yourself might not be rich but I bet your parents are (or who ever paid the down payment). In Sabah the price for Viva Elite MT would almost reach the RM40k mark. With that price you can buy 2nd car around Kelombong, Inanam, Menggatal, Likas etc. The hard part though would be finding a well maintained car. But hey, you need a car just for transportation right?

    And you mentioned that you bought Viva Elite MT right? And you bought it because of its safety features..well..too bad, those features only available in Viva Elite EZi..Hmm..did you really bought Viva?

    If you’re only commuting around KK area or Sandakan or other city area in Sabah, the public transport isn’t that ‘bad’, just that there are lots of PTIs.

    But seriously, RM300 a month and a Viva Elite MT? It’s not even enough for the monthly installment.

  418. tiwasok said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 7:41 pm

    satat said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 9:55 am

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comment-253732#ixzz0MvgjW4gu
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    I’ve driven a Viva. A standard Viva with no modification or change what so ever. And it already feels wobbly just by doing 100km/h. Most importantly, that experience didn’t change my mind into liking it.

    You did 130km/h and got no problems with it? Have you done any change like putting a different rims, altering the suspension system, adding strut bar, side bar here and there etc? If you have then no wonder la..kan.. :)
    If you haven’t..daredevil aa you..

    And yes, you are being biased on you opinion about Viva.

    As most of the so-called ‘P2 basher’ here mentioned, it’s not about Viva is better or other cars are better. It’s the price. It just doesn’t reflect Viva quality. With the same price one can buy a better car and ironically that car is Saga (or 2nd hand car).

  419. tiwasok said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 7:46 pm

    EricG said,

    July 31, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    EricG said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 1:01 am

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0MvaCfTfI

    _________________________________________________________________________

    RM300 a month? yet you bought Viva Elite? well you yourself might not be rich but I bet your parents are (or who ever paid the down payment). In Sabah the price for Viva Elite MT would almost reach the RM40k mark. With that price you can buy 2nd car around Kelombong, Inanam, Menggatal, Likas etc. The hard part though would be finding a well maintained car. But hey, you need a car just for transportation right?

    And you mentioned that you bought Viva Elite MT right? And you bought it because of its safety features..well..too bad, those features only available in Viva Elite EZi..Hmm..did you really bought Viva?

    If you’re only commuting around KK area or Sandakan or other city area in Sabah, the public transport isn’t that ‘bad’, just that there are lots of PTIs.

    But seriously, RM300 a month and a Viva Elite MT? It’s not even enough for the monthly installment.

  420. K.C said,

    August 1, 2009 @ 11:22 pm

    Rm300 a month? go for 2nd motor… petrol cheaper… RM3 full tank….

  421. Elvis said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 1:42 am

    EricG, i have two advise for you. First, buy motorcycle, cheaper and can take you anyway and parking also very easy. Since you are student, why the hell you need car for?! All of us have been student in Uni or College. Having car to and from Uni is for rich kids. But if you insist to ’show off’…my second advise to you, buy 2nd hand kancil. Kancil nowadays are cheap. RM8000 also can get a good one. I know a teacher selling her kancil which she hardly used. I think many people in Malaysia hardly used their second cars at home. Please lah, even lecturers used Kancil during my days. You only earn RM300 yet want to ’show off’ already. I got RM1000 during my Uni days, but i take bus or motorcycle to Uni, even take also not enough. Use you common sense lah bro….

  422. K.C said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 10:00 am

    motorcycle better for short distance and town area usage….

    parking free…

    petrol cheap!!! Rm 3 full tank…

    try find a good second hand one…

    last time my friend sold a few years old motorcycle for RM 1800 only….

  423. k.c said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 10:24 am

    back to the topic….

    They r not bashing P2….

    what they said r true!!! with that price u can get bigger cars!!!

    why pay so much for a small car? (1.0l car should not go over RM39k)

    This viva elite is very Expensive!!! Expensive!!! Expensive!!!

    I may consider to buy the 1.0 manual or the Perodua MPV (if less than RM65k)

    I like the looks and small size viva elite…. (personal use only, go working)

    but most of time offshore, so car is useless to me ….

    Small car like this really too Expensive lah!!!

    Manual Elite cost RM39k++!!! (Not fair!!! why i need to pay more here!!!)

    Don’t even have a spoiler!!! come on lah….

    (RM 250 at accessories shop with paint can not give kah?)

    It is expensive since so much safety equipment not available!!!!

    Should give buyers here Rm2500 ~ 3k discount + Free spoiler!!!

  424. EricG said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 10:30 am

    EricG, i have two advise for you. First, buy motorcycle, cheaper and can take you anyway and parking also very easy. Since you are student, why the hell you need car for?! All of us have been student in Uni or College. Having car to and from Uni is for rich kids. But if you insist to ’show off’…my second advise to you, buy 2nd hand kancil. Kancil nowadays are cheap. RM8000 also can get a good one. I know a teacher selling her kancil which she hardly used. I think many people in Malaysia hardly used their second cars at home. Please lah, even lecturers used Kancil during my days. You only earn RM300 yet want to ’show off’ already. I got RM1000 during my Uni days, but i take bus or motorcycle to Uni, even take also not enough. Use you common sense lah bro….

    __________________________________________________________________________

    haiya elvis, part time work rm300 and i earn monthly allowance rm1k. im not trying to show la. plus i hate motorcycle n i have few friends died because of riding motorbikes. im not buying for the sake of SHOW OFF and OWNING A CAR. IM BUYING JUST FOR THE SAKE TO GET ME FROM POINT A TO POINT B WITH MINIMUN USAGE OF PETROL AND MINIMUN BREAKDOWNS. i have thought buying a 2nd hand car but my old man advise me not to buy it coz if breakdowns happen it will cost me alot.

    haiya, just bash la. in sabah, all we have is just buses that are not systematically organize. unlike rapidkl which is organize n much better on time compare here. plus u guys u hv lrt n monorel n stuff. (which i assume u guys are from peninsular).

  425. Winkey said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 3:07 pm

    my sister want to buy this viva elite la…she just got new license..hehe…what can i explain to her??
    she said,
    1. minyak jimat..
    2. mudah parking..

    That’s why la, produa target viva’s market to female buyers… i ask her to buy Saga or Savvy better..

    i have an opinion..my recommendation to P1 management, please do some promotion to Pusat latihan memandu.. so, when they use saga as their training car, the buyers that got new license will choose saga as first car, because she/he feel more suitable to use that car…huhu.. i’m right? Idea is money :)
    so, anyone can help me to explain to my sista?

  426. satat said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 8:05 pm

    we are talking about safety lor.. using light weight steel.. no Crash Test Video… can u please provide to use a crash test video with your Viva.. u drive so called 130km/h and then at the corner u dont belok2 until u crash will the tembok. please record it in a video and post it in youtube.. i hope u still alive after the crash test..hehe..
    u proud with ur viva huh? my sister viva feel like going to fly when i drive 100km/j..

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comment-253732#ixzz0N1fu4gND

    Idiotic statement. I doubt much ppl/car will survive a 130km/h crash, regardless the kind of car they drive, especially p1/p2 cars. Better yet, why don’t YOU post a video of a p1 car at 130 km/h crash. Sama saja tin milo in the end. Pointless comparison.

    _____________________

    You did 130km/h and got no problems with it? Have you done any change like putting a different rims, altering the suspension system, adding strut bar, side bar here and there etc? If you have then no wonder la..kan.. :)
    If you haven’t..daredevil aa you..

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comment-253732#ixzz0N1fu4gND

    No, my viva is very standard, not even premium. Nothing daredevil about it either.

  427. P2_permanent_basher said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

    winkey,
    Bro, many facts listed up there. 100+ useful facts :P but not all are suitable.
    ask her go get saga lah, 1st priority is safety. She wont understand safey but try convince her :)
    As i said previously, u jimat petrol, easy parking, but when u have serious accident then ( and even if u safe driver, accident will happen, even its not your fault, and gals sometimes ar not good drivers ) , all those petrol money not enough to cover your medical bill. :)

    i go one better , ehhe, ask her to get saga cos she can carry more shopping bags home compared to viva . heheheh

  428. k.c said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 9:42 pm

    Savvy is nice & fun to drive for guys (male)….

    I drove b4 (rented auto car for a day), its corner better than my kelisa or myvi….

    With R3 body kits looks ok…

    but…

    without R3 body kits, looks 0.0….. Ammm….. Sorry, Ugly….

    Auto gear box sound a lot when change gear….

    Plastic gear knob looks no so confident to me…. (looks like easy to break)

    Renault engine, not sure maintenance high or not, so don’t dare to buy

    (Due to the pass, P1 Tiara example, maintenance quite high but the car value….. Sad)

  429. k.c said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 10:04 pm

    to EricG,

    Sorry to hear ur friends pass away from motor accidents….

    I m from Miri, Sarawak….

    Well, small car is nice to use in town area here, but long distance better not…

    I like the Viva Elite too…. but the price really…. Expensive….

    I also drove a rent 660cc viva ( when go kuching)….

    For my opinion, it is not nice to drive at all…

    no power steering really hard to drive for me….

    when starting and reverse your 660cc viva really take a lot energy from me…

    feeling the hand want to patah….

    if u really want a car,

    u can go for 2nd hand kelisa/ kenari gua…. (Here selling RM23k ~ 34k depends on which year produced)

    I still like to drive my no power kelisa original 50+hp really under power…

    (but now my sister use it go Uni)…

    So, i use Myvi (boot space really small), but personal use still ok since not carrying much stuffs….

    Bcos u said earn RM 300/ month, so recommended U motorbike loh…

    I

  430. Robert. T.K. said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 10:44 pm

    About the one say something about God bless you, could you tell everybody to stay at home, dont go out cause it may happen when you driving a tank then suddenly a plane crash and hit you from the sky.
    Till then please remember “I TOLD YOU SO”

  431. EricG said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 11:02 pm

    anyway, i cud have easily choose saga. but again, p1 and p2 has its own pros n cons. anyway, i think viva elite manual is a bargain for me. i have to admit saga is a great car but then again, qc is still a major2 thing.

    oh ya, 1 more thing. dunt judge tin milo due to the size of a car. like dmax n mitsubishi storm score 1 and 2 star respectively. at least cuore score 3 star but we will never know whether the materials been used are exactly the same in viva but the weight of viva n cuore are almost the same +- 20kg.

  432. Elvis said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 2:11 am

    Actually, EricG, i dont get you. Why would you choose Viva Elite when you could take basic Viva 660cc which is cheaper? Heck, basic viva only less that 30k and you wanna take Viva Elite manual 44k, i dont see you common sense since you are studying in Uni, at less you could use a litttle of you intelligence to arrive a decision. Okay, a simple primary maths here, 44k-30k = 14k. Okay, Uni level of thinking, hhmmm, 30k for basic Viva and surplus 14k to buy 2nd Kancil as spare car. You see, how to use our common sense. And for your information, once you buy a car, you have to remember that you need to make periodic maintanance on your car which is roughly RM1000 annually, car insurance, and i think you are asking your dad to take the car loan from bank(remember got interest to pay also).

  433. EricG said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 8:55 am

    elvis, why wud i get a 660? honestly, will u get one too? btw, i am future to be teacher so i have some privilege to take some loan. moreover, im looking in the long run too. i am getting posted next year july and i dun mind suffering paying stuff in a year time alone.

    and elvis, im aware all those stuff u said. im not that dumb.

  434. memeranglaut said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 9:12 am

    anyway, i cud have easily choose saga. but again, p1 and p2 has its own pros n cons. anyway, i think viva elite manual is a bargain for me. i have to admit saga is a great car but then again, qc is still a major2 thing.

    oh ya, 1 more thing. dunt judge tin milo due to the size of a car. like dmax n mitsubishi storm score 1 and 2 star respectively. at least cuore score 3 star but we will never know whether the materials been used are exactly the same in viva but the weight of viva n cuore are almost the same +- 20kg.

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comments#ixzz0N4s4j1Ke

    Eric,
    if you really in love with bibah kumpulan Elit, go and buy it. People had already pointed out that bibah are not better than saga in QC dept. Go and buy it 1st, then hopefully you will get 100% das perfect car. Pray hard as typical perodua do inherit some and obvious quality flaw. It your money and it is your choice. Choose wisely.
    SUV are gennerally having poor NCAP rating star. why, because the centre if gravity and mostly because of the ladder on frame type of manfucaturing. In bibah case. almost all people do realise that the fragile tin milo tin are a threat to passanger and driver. It is an open secret, bibah kelisa kancil and even maiwi are such a fragile car. Need more evidence? ask perodua to sent to NCAP or see pictures of accident involving bibah. It is not a pretty sight i assure you. Don’t argue about the obvious, my car had been into accident before and i was a regular at that body repair workshop. a lot of kelisa, maiwi dan kancil are there and most of the accident mark show you the obvious. 4 wheel koffin with dvvt (or doch..and carburettor).

  435. k.c said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 9:28 am

    Viva 660cc = Rubbish to me…

    better dont buy the 660 viva, very hard to drive due to no power steering!!!

    Perodua!!! please lah, just install a power steering to all the models!!!

    a car without power steering really hard to drive…

    i saw some old ppl really seksa when driving this 660 kancil or viva!!!

    i dont really recomand u for Viva elite, better look for normal 1000cc viva or 850cc viva If u really want a car…

    or maybe 2nd hand kelisa or kenari… but all cars may need to spend some money to replace the old spare parts…

    My kelisa just has a broken brake horse this morning…. i have to say old cars, sure have problems….

    Until now, my kelisa 2002 only have battery problem, dashbord got sound, power window stuck stuck due to too many dust stuck inside (no time to clean it) or the motor need to be replaced… Serious problem, not yet….

  436. tiwasok said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 12:04 pm

    EricG said,

    August 2, 2009 @ 11:02 pm

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0N5PafDgM
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Viva Elite MT is a bargain?
    1. It doesn’t even have all the safety features that you mentioned before. (ABS, EBD etc)
    2. In Sabah the OTR price is almost RM40k (or more). You could bought other cars. (Saga, 2nd hand car.)
    3. QC for Viva? I’ve seen a lot of QC problem with Viva. Power window, door rubber, door handle, lock. Since you’re comparing it with Saga, it’s the same when it comes to QC.

    And you seem unsure on why you choose Viva Elite MT as your car. You’re just using it for commuting between collage/uni right? Then why Viva Elite MT when you can buy Viva 660, 850 or 1.0 basic (or Saga)? I can’t see the logic explanation.

    Fuel efficiency? Maybe. But Kancil is better in that area and cheaper too. Savvy too but it’s quite ‘ugly’ la.

    Maintenance? You can always opt for other service center if P1 or P2 service center too expensive. Spare parts are a bundle nowadays.

    Oh well, your cash (or should I say your parents cash :) ) you choice.

  437. farghmee said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 12:12 pm

    A.
    it’s normal for lady drivers to opt for small car as their 1st car.

    in our house, there are 4cars, all sedan.
    viva she didn’t like becoz our niece already got one.
    myvi she didn’t like becoz of the frog-ish look.
    savvy she didn’t like becoz of the weird styling.
    i10 she didn’t like becoz of the unique rear light.
    then my sis go for Getz 1.4.

    we ask her, “why not u just take mom’s gen2?
    there is nobody really drives it. moreover, it’s an auto.”

    she replied, “very BIG car, not suitable.”

    now, when her already gained confidence,
    she said, “getz is small..”

    B.
    it’s not how fast u drive that prove that car is good.
    it is how safe u r after the an avoidable accident.

    if we r talking about safety, we have to look into these two:
    electronic-initiated safety prevention measures & mechanical spm.
    electronic-initiated e.g. ABS, EBD, VSC
    mechanical e.g. chassis

    for me, if i have to choose between viva basic & savvy basic,
    i go for savvy basic. why?
    becoz i have confidence in savvy chassis rather than viva’s.
    pls google for accident pics of those two model.
    see the differences.

    in electronic-initiated spm, there is a probability that the system would not operate as it intended for. yeah, there is redundancy in system but it is still electronic.

    chassis will absorb the momentum during collision.
    airbag will reduce the risk of fatal injury due to occupant’s inertia.

    good chassis will absorb the momentum so that the impact won’t transfered to the occupant.
    not so good chassis will absorb less of that & transfer the remaining momentum to the occupant.

    in a small car that has relatively short crumple zone, so it is crucial to have well-engineered chassis so that live can be saved.

    if i have to drive a viva, i drive even more careful 8)

  438. Elvis said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 1:19 pm

    In the 80’s, you hardly find cars with power steering, yet not many complain about not having one. I used to drive my father’s car with 3000 cc, a huge car, no power steering yet i dont find it difficult to drive. Yet, nowadays, a super small car like Viva 600cc many complain no power steering. Already Viva basic 600cc, you put power steering, you have less power for the aircon system, less power to alternator. I think not many understand how the engine works. The engine does not only move your car but also your aircon system, alternator system etc. Furthermore, i find it dangerous for a small car like Viva 600cc with power steering. If you driving down a slope you tend too oversteer which is why many accidents involving small cars with power steering. If you want the steering to feel lighter without power steering, i think the best solution is to change the tyre to more lower radius. If you car is using 185/60/15 example change to 205/55/15 for better cornering and handling.

  439. gen2lama said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 3:28 pm

    so if 600cc + power steering = dangerous…..850 0r 1000 (same chasis more power) with the power steering = very save?

  440. Elvis said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 3:48 pm

    I remember buying a car with 1600 cc without power steering 10 years ago. I change the tyres to lower radius and lighter rims. The handling was super and i dont have problem of ‘berat’ to turn the steering. I guess people nowadays have very weak arms. I have driven 850cc Viva without power steering and feel the steering not that heavy at all. The reason i say small cars with power steering very dangerous is that we tend to overestimate turning during cornering or object suddenly passing in front of us. Hence, so many accident involving small cars. But the choice is yours, i only giving my opinion on this matter. Beside, for me the aircon system is much important beside safety….cheers to all…

  441. EricG said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

    aiyak, all people bash me because of buying this car ah.

    im sorry guys, i think this is a great car and im sorry again because i failed the way u see this car. anyway, its just my opinion. just continue bashing la. i dun give a fuck.

  442. P2_permanent_basher said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

    Robert. T.K,
    About the one say something about God bless you, could you tell everybody to stay at home, dont go out cause it may happen when you driving a tank then suddenly a plane crash and hit you from the sky.
    Till then please remember “I TOLD YOU SO”
    ——————————————————————
    kid, Its so unfortunate and sad that u are taking the advice out of context….

  443. person said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

    EricG,

    just go buy viva elite already la..no time to advice u no more.
    its ur decision..u hav compared it with saga, savvy…and still viva is ur choice….then……just do it!

  444. P2_permanent_basher said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 8:17 pm

    EricG,
    aiyak, all people bash me because of buying this car ah.

    im sorry guys, i think this is a great car and im sorry again because i failed the way u see this car. anyway, its just my opinion. just continue bashing la. i dun give a fuck.

    Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0N7bwHBIg
    ————————————————————
    Chill la… Relax … hahaha

  445. Elvis said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 8:22 pm

    Yup, agree with you guys. EricG ask for advise, we give lor. He dont like advise, what to do lor, his money(his parents money) to buy watever car he wants. Go buy Viva Elite MT with power steering, up to you. But i like some of the comments here. Learn alot already, thank you guys. Learn something useful and also know some stupid ones…hehehehe….but like my dead mentor said, if you dont drive any car…how do you know so much about car…hehehe….

  446. k.c said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 9:47 pm

    kelisa & savvy got power steering also….

    after u biasa with kelisa, suddenly go drive viva or kancil 660cc…

    for sure wont biasa lah~

    so, i don’t like cars without power steering….

    I saw most old ppl drive this 660 car…. memang seksa when turning into corner….

    Block my way!!! they enter corner too slow!!!

    after i drove this 660cc car then i know, not their fault…. is the car maker!!!

    For me is hard o drive….thats my personal opinion…

    So, I will say, say No to these 660cc car….

  447. k.c said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

    at starting & reverse ur 660cc car…. hard to turn!!!

    when ur 660 cc car running at slow corners….hard to turn!!!

    850cc still ok….

    but I compare with my kelisa, so for me is Hard to drive….. Sorry…..

  448. Oren^^My-v said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 10:22 pm

    anyway, got baik & buruk antara viva & proton/others lah, if bandingkan fuel consumption geh..viva punye lebih baik berbanding dengan byk kereta lain, save cost mah…guy…about ni Viva Elite, memang price nye ada mahal sikit lerr…tapi terpulang pada choice lah, u beli body-kit atau modified pun mahu ‘lui $’ lah…yakah..guy~ apa lagi Viva Elite ni built-in, better more geh~~ thinking maintenance lagi eh…mahal a bit now, jimat long time…hehehe juz my opinion lah

  449. Oren^^My-v said,

    August 3, 2009 @ 10:34 pm

    anyway, got baik & buruk antara viva & proton/others lah, if bandingkan fuel consumption geh..viva punye lebih baik berbanding dengan byk kereta lain, save cost mah…guy…about ni Viva Elite, memang price nye ada mahal sikit lerr…tapi terpulang pada choice lah, u beli body-kit atau modified pun mahu ‘lui $’ lah…yakah..guy~ apa lagi Viva Elite ni built-in, better more geh~~ thinking maintenance lagi eh…mahal a bit now, jimat long time…hehehe juz my opinion lah

  450. memeranglaut said,

    August 4, 2009 @ 8:57 am

    the only good thing about bibah is the FC any a bit on maintenance. Other than than Saga or savvy pawn bibah for good. Driving comfort, handling, NVH, suspension system, passive safety system all goes to saga and savvy.
    Bibah is an epitome of car company which only cares only about profit and an example of pure capitalism at work. Safety features ommitted, cost cutting here and there so that they could save abit here and there. I wonder how these people sleep at night knowing that they had compromised on safety for profit sake. God bless you.
    Quality is only our perception and thinking bibah having better QC then the saga’s and savvy is totally absurd.Some are blinded with love for bibah that are perceived to have Toyota DNA (quality). It you money and it your choice. You could choose to be ignorant and closed minded. Get yourself a bibah Elit. One fine day you will understand what are we talking about here.

  451. Robert. T.K. said,

    August 4, 2009 @ 10:49 pm

    P2_permanent_basher said,
    August 3, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

    Robert. T.K,
    About the one say something about God bless you, could you tell everybody to stay at home, dont go out cause it may happen when you driving a tank then suddenly a plane crash and hit you from the sky.
    Till then please remember “I TOLD YOU SO”
    ——————————————————————
    kid, Its so unfortunate and sad that u are taking the advice out of context….

    Dumbass, it was a sarcasm. If your brain has difficulty to interpret it, please do everyone a favor, go and look for a neurologist.

  452. Robert T.K. said,

    August 4, 2009 @ 10:52 pm

    P2_permanent_basher said,
    August 3, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

    Robert. T.K,
    About the one say something about God bless you, could you tell everybody to stay at home, dont go out cause it may happen when you driving a tank then suddenly a plane crash and hit you from the sky.
    Till then please remember “I TOLD YOU SO”
    ——————————————————————
    kid, Its so unfortunate and sad that u are taking the advice out of context….

    Dumbass, it was a sarcasm.If your brain has difficulty on interpreting please do everyone a favor,go and look for a neurologist.

  453. yoshimo said,

    August 6, 2009 @ 11:41 am

    lol…i see a lot of people bashing viva here. as a viva owner, i can say that the quality is quite good for a rebadge malaysian car. my experience with viva is bittersweet. yes the roof is quite thin, during rain it feels like that viva is under fire from enemies. all that clanging and such. i also agree that driving long range is not that good for viva especially in sarawak where we have very shitty road condition. the main reason i bought viva is due to the low fuel usage. almost 500km with 1 full tank.now that in it self is a great value for me. road in sarawak limits speed up to 90km. remind yourself of this and maybe it can save your life.

  454. yoshimo said,

    August 6, 2009 @ 11:44 am

    also forgot…hey perodua…do something about your spring and shock absorber…they are shit.

  455. farghmee said,

    August 6, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

    yes yoshimo.
    i’ve been there once, kuching.
    everyone drives at lower pace than semenanjung :)

  456. RUBY said,

    August 8, 2009 @ 11:47 pm

    Saya baru je bli Viva 1.0A…
    Nak wat g keje sng…kete kecik je..tp ok coz baru blaja bw kete
    x brani bw kete bsr..Suami pakai wira sedan tp dia dh bikin turbo…
    convert to injin mitsubishi jd evo..dgr bunyi wira tu mengaum je saya dh gerun..2 pasal la saya bli viva ni..alah,setakat nk wat g keje blk keje ok la tu naik viva kan..bkn nk wat merempit ke ape..nk blk kg? Sure kitorang naik wira 1.8 suami…best..mengaum d highway…
    Pro1 @ Pro2..kami x kisah coz kat umah ke2 nya ada…
    Yg pntg belilah barangan buatan and jenama malaysia..

    P/s: Peace no war

  457. bibahitam said,

    August 11, 2009 @ 1:49 pm

    percaya atau tidak… viva memang jimat minyak, sy drive dr kl to kota bharu cuma 1/2 tank sy dah boleh sampai ke kuala krai…jimat, kalau proton sampai gua musang dan kena topup minyak, kalau tak sangkut kat kawasan hutan. satu lagi pro2 tiada masalah enjin, itu yang penting,

    tak dinafikan harganya melampau, tak padan dengan saiz… tp siapa yang suka bawak keta laju2 boleh la beli 1.0… yang suka bawak keta slow boleh beli 850.

  458. hantu kacang said,

    August 11, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

    viva elite..pehhhh..nice look…but mahal gilerrr.kalu kat uk price tak sampai rm 5k…crazy old lady aje nak beli…how i want support malaysia car???Hooowwwwwwwww..your tell me

  459. Hazri said,

    August 11, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

    comfortable ke bawak viva for long distance??

    i don’t think so…semata2 nak jimat minyak, tp kita semua membahayakan diri kita…

  460. helmy said,

    August 11, 2009 @ 6:07 pm

    nyesalnyer aku baru kuar viva seminggu……then elite plak yg kuar…arghhhhhhhhh

  461. Ford_GT said,

    August 12, 2009 @ 12:20 am

    Rubbish. Another copycat version from other car exterior design ?? I gonna borrow a sledgehammer from Jeremy Clarkson to “repent” this so-called “Elite” type @$$. Congrats.

  462. BadangMalaysia said,

    August 12, 2009 @ 9:08 am

    Sori 2 say la kwn2, yg byk bg komen disini ada lah majoriti sales person atau relatives mereka mewakili syarikat pengeluar kereta masing2, pd org awam mereka komen dari apa yg mereka rasa betul, its ok no heart feeling, realiti nya Perodua mmg copy n paste, tapi kualiti mereka adalah lebih baik dari proton kerana teknologi mereka disokong dari toyota dan daihatsu hingga kini. Tapi Proton??? sape yg back up teknologi mereka?? campro?!! berapa byk kereta yg tersadai tepi jalan?? deliver kete hari ni esok problem, terlalu kerap suruh cust bawak semula kereta ke pusat servis, atas alasan miss assamble lah, itu lah, ini lah hingga cust hilang kepercayaan, so sekarang jualan pun x mencapai sasaran! salah siapa??!!..ambil contoh myvi, sudah 5 tahun diatas jalan raya Malaysia, berapa byk yang kita nampak ada masalah teknikal tersadai di tepi jalan (eksiden dgn tayar pancit jangan ambil kira)..viva dah hampir 3 tahun atas jalan ada kita nampak model ni tersadai tepi jalan atas masalah teknikal?? mungkin ada tapi terlalu sedikit dan mungkin ada diantara anda sendiri yg belum pernah lg nampak model myvi dan viva tersadai di tepi jalan..so kenapa yg kecil mahal?? kenapa yg besar murah?? KUALITI BEB!,,POsmotem SAGA dgn VIVA mari jumpa saya, baru u all tau kenapa murah dan mahal..INI FAKTA!..Berapai ramai cust yg dtg jumpa sy bila sy jelaskan FAKTA mereka akan buat keputusan beli MODEL PERODUA, dan berapai ramai sales person yg berpaling tadah lari jadi sales man perodua??..jgn tunjuk diri anda sbg org yg bodoh di atas ayat2 komen anda yang emo dan wihout knowledge pasal perkara2 berkaitan..gua cau dulu n lu pikir la sendiri dengan melihat statistik dan fakta…

  463. Rentap86 said,

    August 12, 2009 @ 12:39 pm

    Gosh…pricy ‘elite’ viva. interior…uh?
    .well, exterior, pretty cool.
    FC? dunt make a fuss dude. for sure fc is damned good due to- low carb weight, low cc 1.0-660.
    safety? ask urself..! i wonder how come d engineer didnt even bother about their passengers’ safety…come on guys…help malaysian…
    how am i going to support u malaysia brand. don’t blame us.
    tell me what is so elite..is this what u call Malaysian standard…
    bloodsucker..

  464. samj said,

    August 12, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

    babi betul, camner ni, dah nak beli! tiba tiba comment buruk all

  465. farghmee said,

    August 12, 2009 @ 4:09 pm

    BadangMalaysia,
    aku nk satu je FAKTA & BUKTI.
    satu set gmba & result CRASH-TEST VIVA.
    8)

    aku bukan salesman.
    aku xde sedara keje kt bukan perodua.
    masuk je forum kete2 perodua, tgk ape owners komen.

  466. Megi Cap Ayam said,

    August 12, 2009 @ 11:37 pm

    BadangMalaysia said,

    bibahitam said,

    August 11, 2009 @ 1:49 pm

    percaya atau tidak… viva memang jimat minyak, sy drive dr kl to kota bharu cuma 1/2 tank sy dah boleh sampai ke kuala krai…jimat, kalau proton sampai gua musang dan kena topup minyak, kalau tak sangkut kat kawasan hutan. satu lagi pro2 tiada masalah enjin, itu yang penting,

    tak dinafikan harganya melampau, tak padan dengan saiz… tp siapa yang suka bawak keta laju2 boleh la beli 1.0… yang suka bawak keta slow boleh beli 850.

    Hoi, menyamar lagi ker? cakap sorang-sorang lagi ker? hahaha… minyak bakal jadi isu minor bila electric car dah muncul..
    so, client akan beli viva lagi sebab tak makan minyak? NO! tiada orang akan beli sebab tin milo nipis… basikal langgar dah kemek gile… ni kan keta..lori.. takut wooo…

  467. Elvis said,

    August 13, 2009 @ 12:15 am

    Begini sajalah, Viva Elite addon sikit tapi taruh harga mahal2, tahap keselamatan sama ja dengan Viva basic 660cc. Tapi harga 44K actually for rich people tak ada hal coz big bike 1000cc pun lebih 100K sebijik. So if you happy beli Viva Elite tu you punya pasallah. Kira orang miskin macam kita ni tak perlu kecoh2 sangat…

  468. alana said,

    August 13, 2009 @ 12:49 am

    mahalnya..baik aku modified viva yang dah ada ni….

  469. Fridz said,

    August 13, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

    Wah…
    Xhabis2 lagi ke komen?
    Now i know,there are many Perodua Salesman here..if you really2 want to cari makan,duit halal..just dont cheat your customers.dont add-on ’safety features’ on this viva while it is actually dont have..

  470. en, said,

    August 15, 2009 @ 4:46 pm

    badangMalaysia…

    mesti kau kerja dgn bahagian pengaduam awam kn?

    kau ckp suruh jumpe kau nk fakta… buat apa?

    kalu kate dh ade fakta… TULIS… fakta tu dlm bntuk percent dan nombor…

    nk jumpe kau lg buat hapa?

  471. Eksen said,

    August 16, 2009 @ 1:37 am

    even viva super super edition also like Cola Tin..
    what’s the purpose to buy it ??

  472. Ha Gnih said,

    August 16, 2009 @ 2:40 am

    Elite or no Elite, it’s still just another Viva. Aku beli Viva biase dan guna duit lebih tu untuk pimp up my ride according to MY own specs, lagi baguih.

  473. kreko said,

    August 17, 2009 @ 1:26 pm

    yesterday, a master student died in an accident at ayer keroh highway. Her fiancee who’s driving suffer a broken arm. she’s on her way home after her master convo with her fiancee driving a VIVA when suddenly the accident occurred right in front of her family…

    I really hope that p2 can do sumtin about the milo body viva. i dun want anyone to suffer of losing sum1 they love. at least, the chassis need to be stronger, frame support (bla3x <- i'm not an expert in this kind of thing). please… do sumtin about this… dun think of profit only…

    can u all feel the pain of the father… how he felt when his daughter… he even broke his leg coz the car fell into the 'gaung'… the couple suppose to get married after raya…

    thou we feel like blaming the driver but hey! pointing at each other won't make the dead come back…

  474. Prismo said,

    August 18, 2009 @ 8:16 am

    BadangMalaysia… ko asyik je cerita yg dah lapuk… cerita enjin campro yg byk tersadai tu dah basi dah bro (eh.. sejak bila abg aku Badang hah?) :) … kalo nak backing myvi, carilah fakta sikit… siapa cakap yg myvi xder problem.. lagipun, rata2 P2 basher kat sini menekankan pasal KESELAMATAN.. K-E-S-E-L-A-M-A-T-A-N-! .. bukan pasal mekanikal yg boleh menyelamatkan nyawa.. Tapi mereka mempersoalkan pasal jenis tin apa yg dipakai oleh Viva ni.. samada tin milo ke, overtine ataupun tin Vico.. asal Perodua je mesti kaitkan dgn Toyota dan Daihatsu..

    ko nak tahu? aku selalu je gi webs indon utk baca pandangan mereka terhadap keta Proton.. salah satu yg aku baca ttg sheet metal yg digunakan oleh Proton dan Toyota.. mereka mengakui yg sheet metal toyota lebih nipis berbanding Proton.. Padanlah Viva ni tin milo.. parent company pun pakai tin milo utk Vios mereka.. BTW aku bukan Proton salesman.. err… berapa byk booking Viva Elite yg ko terima hari ini?

  475. SagaORviva? said,

    August 18, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

    comfortable ke bawak viva for long distance??

    i don’t think so…semata2 nak jimat minyak, tp kita semua membahayakan diri kita…
    ________________________________________________________________

    setuju..kete boleh beli tapi nyawa xleh beli
    kalo viva ada 4 airbag ok jugak

  476. chor said,

    August 18, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

    Sori 2 say la kwn2, yg byk bg komen disini ada lah majoriti sales person atau relatives mereka mewakili syarikat pengeluar kereta masing2, pd org awam mereka komen dari apa yg mereka rasa betul, its ok no heart feeling, realiti nya Perodua mmg copy n paste, tapi kualiti mereka adalah lebih baik dari proton kerana teknologi mereka disokong dari toyota dan daihatsu hingga kini. Tapi Proton??? sape yg back up teknologi mereka?? campro?!! berapa byk kereta yg tersadai tepi jalan?? deliver kete hari ni esok problem, terlalu kerap suruh cust bawak semula kereta ke pusat servis, atas alasan miss assamble lah, itu lah, ini lah hingga cust hilang kepercayaan, so sekarang jualan pun x mencapai sasaran! salah siapa??!!..ambil contoh myvi, sudah 5 tahun diatas jalan raya Malaysia, berapa byk yang kita nampak ada masalah teknikal tersadai di tepi jalan (eksiden dgn tayar pancit jangan ambil kira)..viva dah hampir 3 tahun atas jalan ada kita nampak model ni tersadai tepi jalan atas masalah teknikal?? mungkin ada tapi terlalu sedikit dan mungkin ada diantara anda sendiri yg belum pernah lg nampak model myvi dan viva tersadai di tepi jalan..so kenapa yg kecil mahal?? kenapa yg besar murah?? KUALITI BEB!,,POsmotem SAGA dgn VIVA mari jumpa saya, baru u all tau kenapa murah dan mahal..INI FAKTA!..Berapai ramai cust yg dtg jumpa sy bila sy jelaskan FAKTA mereka akan buat keputusan beli MODEL PERODUA, dan berapai ramai sales person yg berpaling tadah lari jadi sales man perodua??..jgn tunjuk diri anda sbg org yg bodoh di atas ayat2 komen anda yang emo dan wihout knowledge pasal perkara2 berkaitan..gua cau dulu n lu pikir la sendiri dengan melihat statistik dan fakta…

    Read more: http://paultan.org/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0OWgqcXPp

    BADANG PLZ BAGI CONTACT NO,ramai nk tahu gak fakta awak 2….hahahaha..

  477. initial R said,

    August 18, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

    Sorry badang malaysia, Fakta yang u cakap tu dah lapuk. Viva tetap tin milo walau apa pun yang u cakap. Fakta adalah fakta. Cuba park Saga BLM sebelah Viva pastu ketuk sebelah menyebelah, yang kedengaran bunyi tin adalah VIVA. Diulangi, yang kedengaran bunyi tin adalah VIVA. Murah ke viva tu ?. Dengan enjin 1 liter tapi harga meraban. P2 teknologi hanya dari Toyota & Daihatsu, Proton ?… Memula Mitsubishi, pastu Citrone, Renault, lagi ada Lotus. Teknologi transfer untuk Proton banyak, cuma yang jadi buruk tu sebab suplyer yang keluarkan spare part yang low kualiti. Tu tak kira lagi kedai service biasa yang tipu pemandu proton dengan spare part tiruan. Tapi tu cerita lama. Jadi tengok kat atas tu berapa pengeluar terlibat dalam produk proton ?. Yang aku tau dah 4, mungkin ada lagi yang aku tak tau.

  478. Elvis said,

    August 18, 2009 @ 6:58 pm

    Finally initial R admits that Proton suppliers providing inferior parts for Proton cars. Maybe you finally experience the constants breaking of door openers, engine parts failures, exhaust tail replacements, constants loose nuts etc. No piece of mind at all. The solution to Proton is simple but difficult. Simple coz you only need to change vendors/supplier providing high quality parts. Difficult coz you are talking about Dr. M children easy money income here plus other royal members. So like i said, simple but difficult. So for now, Proton will change CEO if start making noise again but maintain suppliers. As for Perodua, yes, the body is thin but can change that from Mira Japan. That’s why many buy the cheapest Viva and slowly change parts to Mira. So for some idiot who bought Viva Elite…this is what i can say….You are an idiot..hahahaha…..

  479. farghmee said,

    August 18, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

    Elvis,
    1. please read carefully on what InitialR wrote. not jumping here & there.
    2. woohoo..some1 buy viva, later dissatified with the panels & can change to mira’s? that is costly. warranty void. better change the whole chassis? hehe..

  480. Elvis said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 2:35 am

    Farghmee, you thinking short term ler. Waitlah till warranty finish then play and play mira parts. Then sell the original parts bro. Current Proton lineup, you cant find plug and play parts from Japan. If the news that Proton will copypaste Mitsu Lancer come true would be great…

  481. initial R said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 9:47 am

    My late Saga A.K.A Iswara aeroback was great. I do change my spare part, but with original one. Experience the constants breaking of door openers ?, engine parts failures ?, exhaust tail replacements ?, constants loose nuts etc ?,Non of all. After almost 6 year i just do major engine rebore sebab blok engine calar. I’m not the cheapo person, yes i admit that there are supplyer produce the low quality part tapi tu yang banyak kedai spare part yang jual tu (aka kedai ah beng) kata barang ori siap ada logo keselamatan proton tapi itu tiruan. Kalau pandai pakai kereta, kena pandai cari alat ganti asli dari service center proton yang sah cik Elvis oii… Nie nak salahkan proton plak, dah tukar barang kat kedai biasa pastu claim barang proton tak kualiti. Sekarang vendor proton dah berkualiti, memana yang bawa penyakit dah kena tendang dah. Frankly speaking, until now the new owner of my iswara was vary happy with my late car coz no fuzzy buzzy breaking down & the car still look great. Just only 1 thing he said to me that he want to trow up the Viva yang dia beli untuk wife dia sebab baru 1 1/2 tahun pakai dah bermacam masalah melanda walau pun tukar alat ganti asli. Kalau ikut kos pembaikkan campur harga kereta, dia boleh beli Gen2 dah skarang. Sorry Elvis, try to understand what i’m said before comment my post.

  482. @ntiPeOdua said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 11:01 am

    is tat so called toyota quality control ? y got recently news said the viva suddenly exploited !!!! Wat the joke i haven’t hear !!!!!!!!!!!

  483. Elvis said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 11:46 am

    Of course you defend Proton berabis, initial R coz you are PROTON SALESMAN.Well, i challenge you to buy Proton BML or any current Proton lineup and see if you experience as owner is pleasant. For you information, i become anti-Proton since coz my Gen2 experience constant breakdown. And yes, so are my friends too. And yes, we use original spare parts bought from Proton. I think you never been to Proton service centre initial R. You never get your hand dirty or never talked to persons involved in Proton cars repair. You dont know anything about cars except drive them. I know about cars, how to repair them, know what is original or fake parts. And i know how to identify whether a car involved in accident before. I think if i give you a beatiful car you dont even notice or know how to check if ever accident or not. And yes, i know much about how to dismantle a car and put back(or plug and play). I am not a desk person like you initial R. You can talk sheet but you dont know much bro….

  484. farghmee said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 1:27 pm

    ok Elvis, u win.

    Viel Gl├╝ck!

    ps: when it comes to “i-know-more-than-u”, i think it’s better for me to stop this “long-unproven-facts” for the sake of discussion.

  485. initial R said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 2:14 pm

    Sorry to say that i’m not Proton salesman, Yes i’m desk person by own buissnes, Yes i buy Saga BLM for my father for him comute at kampung, Even my wife drive Savvy, now i’m wait my Manual Exora. I have been Proton SC even my machanic also refer to me before change any part in my previos iswara & my wife Savvy. I also can repair my car coz i work as machanic before my futher study. Fake part also i can identify. My Accord some time i do change the oil by my self coz sometime i like to do my self. Dah bekas mekanik, lama tak buat berkarat plak skil. Setakat bongkar & pasang balik pun biasa sangat. My friend also get my opinion before they buy 2nd car nither that car involve in accident or “kereta potong”. I don’t want to say lots more coz it nothing to talk to person yang cakap besar diri macam semua yang dalam tread nie tak tau langsung pasal kereta.

  486. NBL said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 2:24 pm

    I have to say this new VIVA ELIT is good as its mother brand too..
    exterior & interior design,especially front facelift is sporty..

    Aku da pakai kancil (lampu bulat) sebagai kenderaan belasahan selama 5 tahun .. takde masalah pun.. yang ada cuma meter LED rosak (ramai yang komplen ini).. lain-lain semuanya ok terutama cat,enjin,suspensen..

    Kesimpulannya,PERODUA adalah kenderaan yang berkualiti !!!

  487. kayu64 said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 3:04 pm

    saga SE is much better..full stop..

  488. 3siries said,

    August 19, 2009 @ 3:48 pm

    Hahaaaa… funny la u.. ada ka Saga se MUCH BETTER..
    of course la BMW 320I mucchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh BETTER..
    apa la…

  489. Prismo said,

    August 20, 2009 @ 9:37 am

    Elvis, aku nak buat perbandingan… aku ada kancil 850 thn 2003 dan Waja thn 2002… i will list down the problems that i’ve ever experienced from the both of my cars..

    Waja 2002 mileage 120k km (so far benda yg pernah rosak dan diganti)

    1: Suis Power window (claim under warranty and still working until now)
    2: Bateri (salah aku sebab lambat check air. Tukar kepada maintainnace free)
    3: motor kipas Condenser (harga RM120)
    4: Beberapa biji mentol interior dan exterior
    5: Normal wear and tear parts eg. brake pads, tyres, timing belt etc.

    Kancil 850 2003 mileage 80k km

    1: Casset player burn (replaced with cd player with my own expenses)
    2: suis power window kiri malfunction (claim under warranty)
    3: Power window driver side jammed (claim under warranty. After that it’s making a weird sound when winding up. Bunyi karat)
    4: A/C compressor jammed (claim under warranty)
    5: broken door handles (driver side twice and other side at once)
    6: A/C compressor jammed again (no more warranty, replace with my own expenses)
    7: Alarm malfunction (at 16/6/2009)
    8: Headlamp wiring ada problem, ada bau hangus bila on lampu
    9: Wear and tear parts..
    * minggu lepas windshield crack bile terkena batu kecil semasa org memotong rumput berdekatan (bukan problem keta tapi kena batu kecil pun boleh crack?)

    Itulah pengalaman aku dgn keta PROTON dan PERODUA.. renungkanlah….

  490. gen2lama said,

    August 20, 2009 @ 11:19 am

    Elvis = p2 salesman….

    no sales…..so sad….

    thanks god…brought my mom BLM…….so much better that that milo tin viva…

    and thank god …still driving 1st batch gen2 (100% ori parts) + 300k millage…..got new ‘wife’ last 2 month….silver Hline exora…..

  491. P.Ramlee said,

    August 20, 2009 @ 11:30 am

    Ayo ELVIS..
    better u song at karaoke box aa..
    bising la u..

  492. Nabil said,

    August 20, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

    The Viva model frm the begining is a decent model with nothing much to shout about, but when P2 came out with this ‘elit’ Viva and pump up the price as if it has wings n can fly, then P2 is really a total joker with a bad joke that no one would laugh at.
    Cmon, it P2 really want to sell a quality product at tht price, from a Viva, concentrate more on the built quality n less about changing the make-up. The tin can specially is a big No.
    Not to promote other brand, but my wife’s Atos is sturdier.

  493. Elvis said,

    August 20, 2009 @ 12:46 pm

    Completely agree with you Nabil. And for Proton hardcores or Proton salesman here, i hope you are happy. Since you think Proton is producing quality cars by honest suppliers with high quality parts, i think you will have lesser and lesser crowd. Many already decided not to buy Proton cars as from feedback from my friends and relatives. We dont like buying cars from people who dont want to admit that something is wrong and need corrections. We value that our grouse are heard and see us as their valued customers. We dont like been treated as ‘you Malaysians MUST SUPPORT Malaysia product’ B.S…..

  494. Elvis said,

    August 20, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

    ge2lama, if you want to lie, please check you fact first. Are you sure you gen2 registered 300k mileage? The highest i got is 150k mileage for 1st batch gen2. Dont make yourself sound stupid….

  495. Prismo said,

    August 21, 2009 @ 9:36 am

    can i say that Proton’s admitted that gen2 1st batch is a failure product? why is Persona definitely better than Gen2 but it’s cheaper? and Gen2 CPS quality is totally different with ur 1st batch gen2… that’s we called an improvement.

    “We dont like buying cars from people who dont want to admit that something is wrong and need corrections”

    DSZ admitted, “mengakui” yg kereta Proton sebelum ini mmg rata2 mempunyai masalah power window.. Dia berjanji akan memperbetulkan/mengakhiri (doing a correction?) masalah ini secepat yg mungkin dan juga masalah2 yg lain… :)

  496. Kancil said,

    August 21, 2009 @ 10:30 am

    PERODUA…ada kualiti..ada segalanya..!

  497. hariff said,

    August 21, 2009 @ 3:42 pm

    who said p2 have quality??? I own myvi SE 2008 Buy coz every said, p2 is good.. Toyota DNA.. Stil a lot problem…. Driver seat have sound crack every time i move… some of area at front bumper (interior part, at tayar i dunno what to call it) broke at both side.. whenever auto unlock (when mati engine) sound crack too!

    P1 also same… only improve when want to bankrap.. My brother’s neo new (2008) have a lot of problem.. power windom jammed.. Aircond dial also crazyy.. If want to slow temperature, have to turn the dial switch to increase the temperature.. At night when want to turn on the light, luar nyala, dalam spedometer tak menyala… when go to service, 1 week jer elok.. then problem happen again..

    So plz dun say p1 and p2 have quality.. Both same… When want to sell malaysian product to malaysian people, they reduce quality their and sell like everyone can afford it!! then they campaign “Beli barangan Buatan Malaysia”.. Want to buy jepanese, expensive!! But wat to do.. Felt TERTIPU!!!

  498. Kancil said,

    August 21, 2009 @ 3:52 pm

    i still 1 2 say that P2 got quality..
    i pakai 5 tahun maa.. msh ok pun..
    u pkai langgar pokok kot???
    u should use Land Cruiser VX

  499. Kancil said,

    August 21, 2009 @ 3:55 pm

    i still 1 2 say that P2 got quality..
    i pakai 5 tahun maa.. msh ok pun..

    u should use Land Cruiser VX

  500. @ntiPeOdua said,

    August 22, 2009 @ 11:38 am

    do ur know that Perodua is <>

  501. X said,

    August 22, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

    for me everything is ok~

    Bur price not ok only…

    if price around RM33~35k then still ok a bit….

    With ABS + EBD + Spoiler+ Air bags….

  502. hariff said,

    August 24, 2009 @ 12:49 pm

    allo kancil!

    u think i dun have licence kaa?? my car free accident la.. during driving (100kmper hour) at higway suddeenly the some of area at front bumper (interior part, at tayar i dunno what to call it) pecah alreadyy because skru sudah tercabut and kne tayar.. Dun simply said langar pokok!!

    Use brain la.. Not all like to bash malaysian product! But if big company take advantage (cause u r malaysian, so have to buy malaysian product), who to complaint???

  503. grace said,

    August 24, 2009 @ 2:06 pm

    i use my kancil already 6 years..
    no hal pun..no tanggal2..
    jangan drive kereta macam kereta kebal..

  504. elite fan said,

    August 24, 2009 @ 3:38 pm

    New viva elite look ?…. IT’S ELITE ALL RIGHT !!!!
    SOoOoOoO Cool!!!
    new view for M’sian made cars! Proton Waja,Persona & Exora have cool looks…
    Now it seems like Perodua is joining in…
    Viva elite looks cool n sophisticated…
    whole new impression on viva now…

    COOL!!!

  505. elite fan said,

    August 24, 2009 @ 3:44 pm

    i hope maybe perodua can do the same for other cars ( especially Perodua Kelisa… its need a new interior view! )
    But i also hope that they dont use the viva elite look again…
    that will give an impression that M’sians lack idea n creativity.. WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE DON’T LACK THESE THINGS…
    Maybe even present a sedan… Perodu a doesn’t have a sedan, does it?

  506. wawa said,

    August 24, 2009 @ 4:05 pm

    berapa harga untuk pasang rear spoiler bagi viva elite

  507. natakasia said,

    August 25, 2009 @ 2:48 pm

    kenapa tiada cara pengiraan??
    kalau nak bayar d/payment banyak cane nk kira bayaran bulanan???

  508. wawa said,

    August 25, 2009 @ 3:22 pm

    kalu nak kira bulanan senang jek just masuk web perodua.. nanti kat situ ada price then klik jek kat price nanti kat bawah ada loan calculator so kira laa kat situ kalu nak ikat 9thn interest 3.75 , 7thn 3.65 dan 5thn 3.5..

  509. wohoh said,

    August 26, 2009 @ 8:51 am

    siapa yang bandingkan proton ngan perodua utk mengutuk viva elite, anda adalah orang yang takpandai membandingkan “value & Quality”.
    Perodua is best value for money, and best quality.

  510. Prismo said,

    August 26, 2009 @ 1:54 pm

    err.. aku ada bandingkan p1 dgn p2, baca sikit je kat atas tu.. aku nak tambah sikit keburukkan kancil aku.. kancil aku ni NVH dia lebih teruk berbanding waja aku.. enjin kat head cam pun leaking jugak bro.. aku ingatkan kancil aku je yg teruk kualiti bro.. tapi lepas aku test drive kelisa 850 (2nd car) mak aku, ternyata NVH pun teruk gak bro.. belum sampai 3thn umur kelisa mak aku bro.. vibrate dashbord mmg ketara jelasnya.. manual window pun boleh sangkut? apada… mmg berkualiti keta P2 ni… sampai x boleh dipertikaikan lagi.. mmg best penangan si toyota ni… err.. wohoh, ko nak beli kancil 850 thn 2003 aku tak? best for value… tapi byk problems.. cakap resale value tinggi, tapi bila nak jual, sorang pun tak nak beli.. ada yg nak beli, tapi dgn harga yg murah.. settle loan pun tak lepas bro…

  511. anifputeh said,

    August 27, 2009 @ 9:12 am

    Assalamualaikum dan selamat berpuasa kpd umat islam semua. Dalam ruangan ini tak payah le gaduh2. Yg p1 dan p2 sebenarnya dua2 milik malaysia punya.Pasal buatan, keselematan sebenarnya tak penting sangat. Kalau takdir yang tentukan mati lah kita . Begitu juga dengan rezeki. Kalau tak ada rezeki , kukuh mcm mane pun ia akan rosak juga, sedangkan makanan dah dalam mulut pun blh jatuh sekiranya takde rezeki. Sory le kalau niat saya blh menyinggung perasaan orang lain. Wassalam. Puasa ni jgn marahhh.

  512. ProtonUndercover said,

    August 27, 2009 @ 1:55 pm

    MANA ADA MANUSIA KUTUK KERETA DIA SENDIRI? APA MOTIF?

    FIKIR-FIKIRKAN DAN SELAMAT BERAMAL.

  513. ProtonUndercover said,

    August 27, 2009 @ 2:02 pm

    PAUL TAN, MANA KOMEN SAYA?

    KATA OPEN COUNTRY?

  514. grace said,

    August 27, 2009 @ 4:46 pm

    aik? komen x kluar pn bising?

    P2 means quality

  515. End of Dreams said,

    August 27, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

    Proton SUCKS. End of story.

    As a Malaysian, Perodua is the way to go (for local, affordable cars).

    Proton is a NO-NO-NO. Full stop. Quality doesn’t rhyme with it and maintenance is a fuss. Yes, we shouldn’t be dissing our own brand, but if the brand gives us a piece of metal crap, then it is our right to reject it.

    30k-50k is a serious business for average Malaysian, and it is only rational to buy QUALITY rather than BRAND.

    When I hit the working industry later, I vow that my first car will be whatever from Perodua.

  516. Elvis said,

    August 28, 2009 @ 12:35 am

    Quoted from End of Dreams,”30k-50k is a serious business for average Malaysian, and it is only rational to buy QUALITY rather than BRAND”. Yupp, totally agreed with you. That’s what i am trying to say in this comment section, but many dont get it.

  517. chor said,

    August 28, 2009 @ 9:37 am

    paper semalam…4 family died..naik viva,kesian owner viva.

  518. chor said,

    August 28, 2009 @ 9:40 am

    QUALITY OR SAFETY….REFER YESTERDAY NEWSPAPER…VIVA ACCIDENT…

  519. Hyundai i10 said,

    August 28, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

    if the price is below 40k and full spec…i think can consider to buy it but 45k really expensive ……buy hyundai i10 will worth than buy viva and i10 interest only 2%

  520. initial R said,

    August 28, 2009 @ 4:43 pm

    Al-Fatihah kepada mereka yang terkorban melibatkan Myvi semalam….

  521. Elvis said,

    August 28, 2009 @ 6:03 pm

    I think i want to switch from P1 or P2 to Hyundai cars from now on. Hyundai cars are so beatiful and cheap too. Furthermore, the quality is far superior beside you dont have that SAFETY and TIN CAN issues. I rest my case, dont want to look at P1 and P2 ever again.

  522. iz’s said,

    August 30, 2009 @ 10:12 am

    to initial R ,ko reti baca ke x?? or ko bermata 4?? yg xcident keta viva ar,bukan myvi..ko ni byk tol silap dlm membaca..gi ar cek mata lik or masuk sek lik..aperdaaaaa….

  523. Mr. said,

    August 30, 2009 @ 2:03 pm

    @End of Dreams,

    Your vow might trap u later…

    Not everything from the manufacturer you admire is good quality… i did my practical at their plant last time… in Quality Control summore…

    so… i got to know some problem… hope u r in luck

  524. acerman said,

    September 1, 2009 @ 7:59 pm

    End of Dreams said,

    August 27, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

    Proton SUCKS. End of story.

    As a Malaysian, Perodua is the way to go (for local, affordable cars).

    Proton is a NO-NO-NO. Full stop. Quality doesn’t rhyme with it and maintenance is a fuss. Yes, we shouldn’t be dissing our own brand, but if the brand gives us a piece of metal crap, then it is our right to reject it.

    30k-50k is a serious business for average Malaysian, and it is only rational to buy QUALITY rather than BRAND.

    When I hit the working industry later, I vow that my first car will be whatever from Perodua.

    Read more: http://paultan.org/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#ixzz0Pr3d6bsG

    Yes, I agree with U(sort of)
    The viva:

    My passenger left window cannot use the power window. Stuck half way.
    I thought only Proton got this problem. Perodua quality is getting worse. Rode above 110km/h like wanna fly. The battery already ‘kaput’ after just 1 1/2 year. WTF! RM40k car with no quality!
    More, hear something vibrating, cannot find it came from where, and there is more, letih nak taip.

  525. NBL said,

    September 4, 2009 @ 12:45 pm

    Need for QUALITY local car?
    - the answer is PERODUA..
    - get it @ nearest showroom
    - and got quality as price..

  526. gen2lama said,

    September 5, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

    wooo long time since my last comment..

    bro elvis the p2 salesman said,

    ge2lama, if you want to lie, please check you fact first. Are you sure you gen2 registered 300k mileage? The highest i got is 150k mileage for 1st batch gen2. Dont make yourself sound stupid…

    do u control my car usage? ok i drive min 150km daily for work (5 days a week)…going back kg (johor) every week (280km kl-BP airhitaam exit)..6 years 150×20x12×6..+ 280×2x3time fer monthx12×6….work =216k..blk kg =161k….not included shopping, cuti2 malaysia, OT on weekend,

    still dont believe me….ask the petronas ngv attendance melaka, how many time the JHM blue gen2 refill the NGV in a month

  527. Elvis said,

    September 5, 2009 @ 11:15 pm

    Hahahaha….ini kira kategori tembirang tak menjadi…150km a day equal minimum spending 2 or 3 hours on the road….if kerja logistik saya percaya juga tapi walau macam mana u putar bro….pleaselah, ini bulan ramadan…jangan bohong bro…

  528. RunnerUp said,

    September 6, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

    Elvis, what “car” are u using?
    Need a minimum of 2-3 hours for 150km?
    I (and most other people i believe) can do it in less than an hour…

    If you need 2 hours then that means you’re doing an average of 75km/h.
    And if 3 hours, 50km/h.
    That’s just, hmmm… too slow!

  529. Elvis said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 12:44 am

    Hahaha…so funny….another stupid idiot here….hahaha…dont tell me your driving average is 150km/hour stupid….hahahaha….no traffic jam or traffic light? Next time make better lieslah….

  530. RunnerUp said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 3:22 am

    Well I’ll be damned, you are right Elvis – considering the traffic lights, it does take me 20 minutes to cover 20km on my way to office daily. Setapak-Bangsar.

    But I still believe gen2lama is telling the truth though =P

  531. gen2lama said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 7:41 am

    hey elvis…..150 km perday means 70km a journey….well calculate yr self….

    home = serdang…6.15 a.m….send anak, then wife to seri kembangan throuh putrajaya road…then straight to Klang….LDP + ELite + fedral . …8.00a.m pucnh card….friday afternoon…from serdang to BP….KL – air keroh -muar – BP….sunday night go back to KL…continously…used to spend 800 on petrol…that’s why change to NGV….

    ever heard people live in Seremban/melaka and work in KL?…

    Kluar dari tempurung daa…stupid ‘no sales’ P2 salesman….

  532. gen2lama said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 7:50 am

    2 or 3 hours driving?

    from Ssg Besi i can reach air hitam tol on 2.1/2 hours….240km…

    stupid pELVIS who only drive in his Taman….or do u realy have car?..

  533. farghmee said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 10:09 am

    i believe travelling 150km/day is achievable with 2~3hour spent on the road.
    i also believe that taking less than 1hour to cover distance of 150km is possible.
    provided that:
    light trafic, no road congestion.
    no police, no speedtrap.
    good road.
    good car handling.

    gen2lama maybe live not in KL where traffic jam is always there.
    gen2lama maybe travel a lot (site work).
    gen2lama maybe stay very far from his/her workplace.

    a friend of mine used to travel from his home in nilai to workplace in bentong everyday.

  534. Prismo said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 10:39 am

    ProtonUndercover said,
    August 27, 2009 @ 1:55 pm

    MANA ADA MANUSIA KUTUK KERETA DIA SENDIRI? APA MOTIF?

    FIKIR-FIKIRKAN DAN SELAMAT BERAMAL.
    —————————————————————

    A’ah.. betul tu.. org yg pakai keta Proton yg agak byk problem tu dtg sini hari2 dok bashing keta Proton tu “MEMUJI” agaknya ye.. :)

    SELAMAT BERAMAL….

  535. gen2lama said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 10:46 am

    yup i stay far away from my ‘posting’….Klang…

    but have to stay in serdang coz my wife work at Hospital serdang…easier….

    for the trafic, that’s why i start as early as 6.15….choose putra jaya road instead ‘pekan seri kembangan’ – dammm jam…the putrajaya itself 17km…

    then LDP …less trafic at morning, then ELite..exit at batu 3….faster…..than from batu tiga masuk federal…faster after tol….then Klang town…….

    dammm…so tired….cant wait to get transfered to johor…….

  536. Elvis said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 11:09 am

    Bro gen2lama……bukan apalah. I bole cari Perdana mileage 120,000km tahun 1995 lagi. Ur gen2 dah sampai 300,000km tu pun tahun 2004/5. Lu pikir sendiri. Thats why i laughed, coz so far tak pernah jumpa kereta tahun 2004/5 dah cecah sampai tahap tu. If top overhaul pun no use coz if mileage dah sampai tahap tu kira buang. Piston pun dah kira bila2 rosak and lubang2 pun kira engineering balik dah. If pakar kereta baca komen u, mesti geleng kepala bro…

  537. 1 MALAYSIA SUCKS said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

    WAT D HELL…U ALL REALLY STUPID…

    STILL SUPPORT MALAYSIAN CAR WHO REALLY BLOODSUCKER!!!

    P1 OR P2 STILL SUCKS N REALLY MAKE US PROUD OF NUTIN…

    SEE D PRICE, CAR BELOW 1300 CC STILL SELLS AROUND 40 K!!!???? WAT D HELL..SEE ANOTHER COUNTRY N U WILL AGREE WITH ME…EVERYBODY IN P1 N P2 NOT THINKIN ABOUT ‘RAKYAT’ JUS THEIR BONUS N PROFIT….
    WANA BUY ANOTHER BRAND?? HAHA…THEY MAKE US FEELS P1 N P2 STIIL CHEAP BUT THE TRUTH IT ISN’T LAAA..DUN U SEE…THEY R PLAYIN WITH D PATRIOTISME REGIME N PROPAGANDA, FACELIFT OR NOT..P1 N P2 R PLAYIN PATRIOTIC INFRONT OF RAKYAT…

  538. gen2lama said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 3:16 pm

    haiyaaa…dont be so stupid la….HOW ON THE EARTH U KNOW EVERY CAR USSAGE?……even i just clock 5000 on my exora…..weekend only….how to compare? one daily use, and other one weekend only…

    changed the timing belt 3 times…..min km aalready 240k km…(80k each)

    go check on taxi….how km perday?…..

  539. Elvis said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 4:24 pm

    Hahaha…bro gen2lama…go to http://www.mudah.com.my…search for gen2 for sell for year 2004 this for kl area only(easiest comparison). Coz so far the highest mileage that i can find is 120km selling for 28k, manual. So if you want to tembirang better double check your facts first. You change your timing belt 3 times within 5 years?! HAHAHAHAHAHA…….tambah stupidlah your comments…….never heard of anyone changing their timing belt like changing tyres before. And you spend RM800 for petrol(excluding road tax, maintaince and monthly car loan) roughly RM2000 a month on your gen2?

  540. farghmee said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 4:51 pm

    apahal la susah sgt ni?!
    mana ada org monitor org lain punya milage?
    serdang ke klang tu jauh. mmg logik la ble milage tinggi.

    120 000 km / 14 thn = +- 9000 km/thn.
    kira ok la tu, sbb kapchai aku ni pn 12000km/thn. hari2 pakai.

    gen2lama, so kira2nye enjin campro ni ok la kn? 300 000 km tu :)

  541. ekin said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

    i bru je booking viva elite
    i amek yg 40,500 nya(putih)
    bkn fullspac nya..
    sbb i banding kn yg fullspac nya hanya
    ade tmbahan spoiler n safety bag..
    44,500..
    beza 4,000…
    sbb tu i amek yg biase nya…
    sbb spoiler tu kat kdai luar xsmpi 100 pn..
    lpas tu, tuk promosi hari raya ni ade potongan 2,200..so total kete yg i amek 38,300…
    lpas tu ade brouch mnyak lg rm300 n tinted cermin…
    ok la…

  542. RunnerUp said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 10:25 pm

    maybe die jeles kot gen2lama punye Gen2 buleh pegi sampai 300+ km…
    takkan takleh accept kot?

    die cakap tak baik menipu di bulan puasa.
    tapi die lupa, kalau tak tahu hal sebenar, menuduh orang lain menipu pun tak baik juga. tak kire laa bulan puasa ke tak.

    just because kereta lain punye mileage paling banyak pun 120km je over several years, it doesnt mean that every other car pun kena ikut maximum 120km juga.
    the possibility is there, to reach 300km.
    lain laa kalau gen2lama cakap die drive sampai ke bulan.

    ye, betul. apahal la susah sangat ni?!

  543. RunnerUp said,

    September 7, 2009 @ 10:31 pm

    120k km, and 300k km.

  544. gen2lama said,

    September 8, 2009 @ 7:50 am

    farghmee….that’s why i believe in campro….so got myself another proton – exora…

    actually it’s not exactly 300km…..it’s 260k + another 18k (estimate) ‘missing’ coz my speed sensor ‘kong’..when the speed sensor kong, the meter stop..get it fixed at Pandan Indah SC (near the maxisegar)….anybody can check my record there…..Gen2 with johor registered no….JHM…

    still got people don’t believe i changed the timing belt 3 times…I SERVICED MY CAR EVERY MONTH….I CHANGE MY TYRE EVERY 1.1/2 YEAR….

    mana2 engine kalau service ikut jadual mesti ok punya…

    Stupid elvis…..I;ll upload the pic if u want…or u can wait me every 5.00 pm at serdang hospital entrance……

    poor p2 salesman…

  545. Prismo said,

    September 8, 2009 @ 9:41 am

    tak mustahil yg gen2 bro gen2lama boleh reach 300km… aku sendiri pakai waja thn 2002 dah reach 125k km dan kancil thn 2003 84k km dlm masa 6 thn ni (aku sendiri yg pakai, selang seli)… kalo dicampur kedua dua mileage keta aku tu dah cecah 209k km dah.. itupun opis aku dekat je dari rumah aku.. haiya, susah sgt ke nak percaya ke Elvis?? keta dia, dia sendiri tahulah..

  546. initial R said,

    September 8, 2009 @ 10:06 am

    Elvis… I bukan nak kutuk atau sokong. U memang boleh carik perdana tahun 1995 millage 120k, tapi cakap tau mana nak pilih kereta terlibat kemalangan ke tak ?. Yang nie nak cakap sikit. Millage kereta yang ada kat used car boleh dikurangkan atau ditukar menjadi 0km kalau nak OK.. Ada beberapa cara nak buat & nak tau kereta tu dah berapa jauh dah jalan. Ko tak penah pikir ke perdana yang ko cakap tu baru 120k untuk 14 tahun. logik ke tak ?. Kalau perempuan masuk kategori makcik buat pergi pasar mungkin hampir betul. tapi kalau owner lelaki…?. ko takyah temberang le Elvis.. Banyak bengkel kereta buat ubah millage kereta nie. Satu lagi nak cakap, penggunaan tayar atau rim sport pun boleh ubah pergerakkan meter… ko yang kena check fact dulu kalau nak cakap pun…

  547. Mr. said,

    September 9, 2009 @ 12:50 pm

    Mr Elvis,

    knapa susah nk accept yang mileage campro to boleh pegi smpi 300k?

    adakah anda slalu mention yg engine campro xreliable kepada pembeli2 perodua yg berpotensi? (jika anda adalah salesman p2)

    mileage tu boleh adjust la bro… pegi tye kedai…

  548. Mr. said,

    September 9, 2009 @ 12:55 pm

    bro gen2lama,

    klu org tu jenis tutup hati tutup mata, u buat cmne pn die xkn terima pye…

    bg gmbr kt die,nnt die kate photoshop,

    tunjuk kete kt die, nnt die kate dh adjust,

    segala seribu alasan utk menutup hati die…

  549. Elvis said,

    September 9, 2009 @ 1:24 pm

    Bila ja topik Proton and Perodua ni, ada aja orang bodoh nak MEMPERTAHANKAN no matter what. Lu pikirlah sendiri bro….pakai several username pun orang tau juga. I guna satu username aja, bukan tukar2 then support gile. HOW MANY TIME DO I NEED TO MENTION ABOUT PROTON ABUSE ON VENDORS/SUPPLIERS. This thing exist….i am as concern individual only telling you the fact. JANGAN SIOK SENDIRI AJA. If i am wrong, then i am wrong. i accept it, and i make many comments and funny thing is TIADA GADUH2 BODOH MACAM NI. Grow uplah, kita cuma comments, dont get so mental over nothing. If your gen2 over 300k km, so be it. But i doubt no one will buy over a car with superhigh mileage. Beside, why would anyone drive over 150km a day? Hemmn, keja logistic logic juga, ada allowance minyak. If keluar duit sendiri for it, orang bodoh je tu….

  550. gen2lama said,

    September 9, 2009 @ 3:18 pm

    hey go check all the ip…

    ORANG BODOH SOMBONG MACM U NI JE YG BODOH….

    i’ve been using this nick name from the first time i joined this forum….and i’ve been usisng the same on other’s car forum…go check protonexoraclub, kereta.info, and many more….

    i dont work logistic…why are u so jealous my campro can go that far?…no sales a this month?…my offer still valid…wait me anytime at the serdang Hospital entrance …5.00 pm anytime…

    yes i keluar duit sendiri…no allowance….that’s why i’m using NGV now…want more go check BATU PAHAT PROTON SC…my gen2 record are there….

    and why are u so STUPID telling people BODOH for driving more than 150km a day?…u school boy aaa?…got many HUSBAND and WIFE work far from each other….dont have brain aaa…

  551. gen2lama said,

    September 9, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

    errr did i mention i want to sell my car?

    errr…ok u kata pakai several nickname pun boleh tau orang sama…ok TELL ME EACH IP FOR ANY NICKNAME YG U RASA ORNG SAMA…..

    Or Paul can help u …..

    the thing is i just mention about my millage…It’s just u BODOH tak bleh terima.. the high millage got things to do with u ka?…..ooooo of course la….yr are p2 saleman…

    go study harder la…get other job…

  552. Elvis said,

    September 9, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

    Exactly as i thought….ada orang mental kat cni….

  553. Elvis said,

    September 9, 2009 @ 4:29 pm

    Dahlah bangga dengan gen2 lama dia yang dah over mileage, service pun tiap2 bulan, drive pun 150km sehari….LU PIKIR SENDIRILAH….
    So what? U spend lebih RM2000 untuk kereta sekadar gen2 je dahlah, hantar bini anak2 kehulur kehilir. Bini tak tau drive ke? Dahlah tu, takan guna otak tu planning macam mana nak kurang belanja kereta, beli pulak Exora guna untuk weekend je? Takkan bodoh gitu….bini tu tak drive ke Exora hantar anak2 sekolah…bro…otak tu guna sikit ler….ckit jer…..orang putih kata…common sense…tak taulah…if tak guna akal pikiran ni….i pun rasa bingung perut ler orang sehotak ni….

  554. farghmee said,

    September 9, 2009 @ 4:53 pm

    wei..apahal ni gaduh2?

    elvis, kalu org dh ckp kete dia milage approx 300k km, terima je la statement tu. yg ko angin satu badan nape lak?

    cuba pk logik la ye..
    1. keje kt klang, umah kt serdang, hari2 travel, mmg la byk milage.
    2. dia ckp ada data service kt batu pahat sc. rasa dia tipu, ko check la.

    yg u sibuk2 ckp org xde common sense tu apahal?
    1. dh dia nk anta bini dia, lantak dialah.
    2. psl beli exora pn, biarlah $ dia.

    come on la bro.,
    kalu u salah, u accept je la. susah sgt ke?
    kalu xpuas hati ngn proton, nape marah ngn org guna proton?
    marahlah ngn proton tu.

    sapa yg “psycho” sebenarnya?

  555. gen2lama said,

    September 10, 2009 @ 8:14 am

    biarlah dia……

    masa bila plak aku kata aku spend 2000 sebulan untuk kete…

    hey P2 salesman….Gen2 aku dah tak payah bayar dah…hak milik mutlak…yes my wife tak bawak kete…pasal apa? dia taknak/tak berani…ada masalah ke?

    pasal aku servise selalu ni la mampu jadi overmillage car….

    klau ko nak tau pasal aku pakai kete murah ni la aku cuma spend RM7 je sehari (tol tak masuk)untuk kerja hari2….nak tau camna?…..kete tak payah bayar..NGV RM9 boleh cecah 200km….kira sendiri la….tol pun lagi mahal….

    so what if my car ‘over millage’ ….u want it? i dont want to sell it…and do u think people ‘mampu’ pakai kete lebih dari satu tu BODOH ke?….tu usaha diiaorang…bukan setakat satu, lebih dari tu pun ramai yg mampu…lain la ko yg dah perabis duit beli kete mahal…loan sampai 9 tahun…

    dont just talk rubbish here…SHOW ME THE IP ADD FOR ALL THE NICKNAME YG KO RASA ORNG YG SAMA……

  556. gen2lama said,

    September 10, 2009 @ 10:54 am

    dont talk tin kosong laa….

    i give u my ‘fact’ – http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/gen2lama/CIMG0881.jpg

    or call this no…07 4339097 Ming Hong Motor Servicing Sdn Bhd….the last time i serviced my car there was on 11/05/2009…ask them how many km my car at that time….JHM 1341….then compare it with my latest pic…calculate yr self….MORONNN..ohhh dont forget to ask my EXORA to…..

    enjoy the pic of ‘my pride’…..I FULLSTOP…dont want to waste my time layan orng2 bodoh sombong ni…

  557. gen2lama said,

    September 10, 2009 @ 11:59 am

    in case u r to SHY nak call….

    let me tell u this….last service there 3 months ago…250k….compare it with the pic….then get a calculator….divide per day (20 working days per month)..

    it’s the km i travel daily for work….Oh forget to mention u that I DONT WORK AT KLANG ANYMORE…TRANSFERED TO AMPANG…..BUT STILL TRAVEL ALOT WITH MY GEN2….

    the reason why my last service was 3 month ago was because i DIY every 2 month…only send to SC on the third month

  558. Mr. said,

    September 12, 2009 @ 9:52 am

    Mr ELvis,

    dont say people bodoh when u act like one.

    it is near 300k km… so be ot as u said it yourself… so, why argue?

    if people want to be stupid to spend much on their car, so what?

    is it bcause u think they better spend by buying this viva elite car?

    again, dont call people stupid when u act like one… not accepting the fact that already there…

    you still denying isnt it?

  559. Elvis said,

    September 12, 2009 @ 8:36 pm

    Dear bro Gen2lama…sudah2lah tu….guna username lain pun readers lain pun tau juga…..
    Anyway, i am using Nissan Fairlady now…it’s 2nd hand but the handling is superb. Thank goodness the dealer took my old and crappy gen2 away from me and willing to trade the Nissan Fairlady. It’s been almost 6 month i am using my Fairlady….and i am getting new girlfriend every week. Yes, i am boasting coz i am using NISSAN FAIRLADY…not like you suck with your dirt cheap gen2. Hahahaha…i stop replying to your reply because, i cant get myself stop laughing coz ADA JUGA ORANG MACAM U NI WUJUD D DUNIA….so in love with Proton with even our former PM Dr. M dont get a damn about Proton. Okaylah, u win…….u with the battle but the lose the war BIG TIME bro….Maybe you should read Paul Tan articles about Proton since 2004. He’s the Sifu keeping track with Proton latest development since 2004 yet dont make noise about how hardcore he is with Proton. And you will notice that many people have complain about Proton since 2004. Read Paul Tan articles and comments. Open you mind bro…..

  560. initial R said,

    September 12, 2009 @ 10:19 pm

    Hmmmm… This Elvis crap still in halusination…… pitty. So the main point to get those car just for fun, Show of, and to get young chicks every weeks… Ok bro, for fun meter you get the high score, Hope you happy with Nissan Fairlady. For us, We get high score for Pleasure meter coz we enjoy our driving. However, how come you buy Nissan Farlady 2nd hand not Toyota Supra 2nd hand since you so hard deffend Toyota DNA ?. Hehehe….. he will complaint about fuel after this….

  561. gen2lama said,

    September 12, 2009 @ 11:18 pm

    HAHAHAHA…….PEOPLE STILL BUY….THAT’S FACT NO 2…ERRR DID U CALL THE PROTON SC?…NO? WHY? AHAHAHAHAHH

    SHAME U……

    HAHAHAH PITY P2 SALESMAN WHO ONLY CAN DRIVE USED CAR….PERGH….TOTAL DROP ON SALES KA?

    I DONT WIN ….I DONT LOOSE……AT THE END I HAVE MORE IN MY LIFE….WISH U ALL THE LUCK IN GETTING ‘WIFE’….

    FAIRLADY?…..NOT EVEN IN MY WISH LIST….BY CHOOSING PROTON, I HAVE NOW MORE THAN 10 EKAR KEBUN THAT GIVE ME ABOUT 10K PER MONTH….STILL WORKING WITH G, STILL WITH MY WIFE THAT EARN MORE THAN 5K WORKING ON G ALSO….OHH BUT DONT HAVE MANY ‘GIRLFRIEND’ WHO WILL ‘KIKIS UR SMALL COMMISSION ON VIVA ELITE SALES…

    MY NEXT CAR?…SURE RELATED TO PROTON ALSO…..I’LL BE DRIVING LOTUS EZORA, AND KAWA Z1000….BUT NOT IN THIS YEAR…WAITING FOR ALL MY INVESTMENT BERHASIL….THEN RETIRED EARLY FROM KERJA MAKAN GAJI, AND BALIK JOHOR STAY IN MY BUNGLOW SURROUNDED WITH POKOK KELAPA SAWIT (NOT GIRLFRIEND)…FULL TIME PEKEBUN AND ENJOY THE ‘FRUIT’ OF MY HARD EARN INVESTMENT…….

    THAT’S MY LIFE PLANNING….AND I STARTED WITH CHEAP LOUSY PROTON…

    GET LIFE LA SCHOOL BOY ELVIS…..THOSE WHO LAUGH LAST LAUGH BEST….

  562. gen2lama said,

    September 12, 2009 @ 11:22 pm

    Paul, do u mind showing this school boy elvis my ip and show him any other username using the same ip with me…..

    thanks

  563. Elvis said,

    September 13, 2009 @ 3:38 am

    Hahaha…i am laughing so hard today coz this gen2lama really pissed off…tak habis2 pasal crappy Proton dia. And tambah2 tembirang lagi pula budak 2 puluh sen ni. Ada hati kata ada kebun 10 ekar bagi 10 ribu sebulan? Pigilah…keep dream asshole…driving 150km a day ada masa pulak berkebun dapat 10k sebulan…apa punya manusia ni…kuat tembirang, mimpi tak mampus…bini tak tau drive…tapi beli lagi Exora park kat rumah for weekend….hahahahahaha…..tak betullah otak mamat ni…okaylah…YOU WIN….not because the fact is true…because i dont argue with nutcase like you….not enjoylah if gaduh2 dengan orang gila ni…nanti berjangkit pula….

  564. Mr. said,

    September 13, 2009 @ 5:34 pm

    haha… Elvis budak sekolah… suddenly boasting about his nissan fairlady…

    he even challenge u to call the SC? why not call? scared r? HAHAHA

    why not go and wait at the hospital? scared r? HUHUHU

    using car to get chick… heh, cheapo method… even mat rempit has no money also can get chick… heh… no different….

    you happy with the fairlady, so be it…

  565. gen2lama said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 8:07 am

    ELvis….want me to show u other fact?

    i would very happy to show u my geran tanah…..or u can search with pejabat tanah batu pahat…my kebun lot number?…..r u ready to check what is the value of my kebun sawit?….just ask the market price tanah kosong 2 km from KUITHO….my 1/4 of my kebun (not tanaha kosong) is just 2km from KUITHO..

    pekebun 10k per month?

    susah?…dont duduk bawah tempurung laaa……go audit pekebun kecil kelapa sawit….huh…setakat used fairlady bila2 diorang boleh beli…

    hey my kebun sawit is more than 10 ekar…mine is 4 ekar…the rest my wife’s kebun…half from pusaka, half joined loan with me….buying empty land, than tanam sawit….whooooo i dont mine being her driver as long as got ‘paid’….only stupid people willingly ‘work’ as driver to girlfriends who have nothing….want to know how easy i got the tanah?….it’s benefit i got from working with G…not P2….i’m entitled to get loan perumahan for 250k…but i dont buy house for 250k…for what? showoff like p2 salesman with the fairlady….that’s the most stupid people….i bought 4 ekar of 5 years kelapa sawit worth 140k…and built a banglow there…

    ohh btw my exora jlp 6792….hohoho i;m very proud to mention my plate number here coz it’s fact….

    pity la people who can afford used fairlady olny….but very proud of the used car…hey…HAHAHAHAH…BUY A FAIRLADY (WHAT? USED? PERGHHH)..JUST TO SHOW OFF BUT GO TO WORK WITH KAPCAI OR BUY BUS COZ TAK MAMPU NAK ISI MINYAK HARI2…..WANT TO USED MY MINYAK SAWIT KA? HAHAHAHAHAH

  566. gen2lama said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 8:30 am

    hey one more thing…..aka ka akau kata aku full time pekebun sekarang ni?…

    hey kebun sawit tak payah jaga siram pokok hari2 bro….tak belajar ka?…petik buah 2 kali sebulan….semua tu indon aku yg buat…FY info….aku layak amik 4 orang indon pasal ada lebih 5 ekar…gaji diaorang pun aku rasa lagi banyak dari commision ko…..satu tan sawit diaorang petik RM55..aku bagi…sekalai petik pernah cecah 16 tan….harga semasa RM320 setan….income aku setengah bulan je dah berapa?…boleh kira tak? tak pandai?…..takpelah aku kirakan….16 tan x 320 = RM5′120….kalau sebulan? kali la dua!!!!!!!….tu income aku dari kebun….yg boleh goyang kaki punggut duit….tu kasar la….(ada aku cakap bersih sebelum ni)….tolak upah…tu je….baja dan racun setahun berapa kali je….NAK TAU UPAH INDON AKU BERAPA ? AKU ADA 2 ORANG JE…SEBULAN 2X55X16….BERAPA…?KIRA SENDIRI….

    KELUAR DARI TEMPURUNG, P JLN2 KAT KAMPUNG2…..U’LL FIND MOST OF THE KEBUN SAWIT OWNER DONT KERJAKAN KEBUN DIA….JUST DUDUK RUMAH CALL PERAIH AMIK BUAH BILA INDON SIAP PETIK….GOYANG KAKI DUIT MASUK…TAK PAYAH CARI CUSTOMER…

  567. gen2lama said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 8:47 am

    OH FORGOT TO TELL U…300+ TU CURRENT PRICE…..IMAGINE IF THE PRICE GOES UP TO 600…..PERGH……EVER HEARD ORNG2 FELDA BELI REFRIGERATOR JUST TO USE IT AS ‘ALMARI BAJU’?…..TU ZAMAN2 HARGA SAWIT TINGGI GILER….

    I FULL STOP, ENJOY YR USED FAIRLADY…..AND DONT FORGET TO ASK YR GIRLFRIEND TO COOK WITH MINYAK SAWIT..(BOLEH MASAK KE ?)…..OR TRY TO USED MINYAK SAWIT IN YR USED FAILADY COZ PETROL MAHAL NI…..

    HAHAHAHAH

  568. Elvis said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 11:16 am

    Beginilah if otak mamat yang sudah tidak boleh diselamatkan. I used to be very amuse with nutcase talking BS so i know the symptoms very well. I think Paul would be very offended with you since he also just bought E30 2nd hand. Cannot buy car 2nd hand meh? My parents owned 100 acres of palm oil but never make noise. I know that 4 acres is peanut and doesnt generate much income. Baja and racun alone cost a bomb not include workers curi part time on the side if you are not there to monitor them. Pleaselah bro…grow up….dont continue embarassing yourself….

  569. farghmee said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 12:18 pm

    elvis..elvis..
    this gen2lama guy just want to tell u how from plantation itself that we can generate money. not about who own the most land either 4acre or 100acre.

    about criticizing one’s way of life is not nice, rude.

    if u don believe gen2lama, just wait for him at serdang hospital as he mentioned earlier. go check the SC.

    unless u prove gen2lama is wrong, i assume u r just “pandai cakap”.period.

  570. kreko said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 12:24 pm

    gen2lama, no need 2 argue with elvis laa, he’s just a school boy. let him be. we the adult hav our own life. let him dream of sumtin.

    my family own 5 proton cars; gen2, waja, savvy, neo n saga (kreta kebal) and there’s no major problem with it, all the minor service things. when i asked why we didn’t buy the p2, the simple answer i got is “no safety” and i understood it. everyday, a p2 car will involve in an accident and they will be death count.

    just think of safety. let elvis dream what he wanted to. dream is sumtin that drive us toward achieving it. keep on dreaming elvis! i hope u’ll achieve it, thou with ur mom’s money, or ur daddy. at least u hav 1, not like all of us…

    me only hav neo…

  571. gen2lama said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 12:42 pm

    I FULL STOP….

    MY LIFE…MY INCOME….WHY DO U SO JEALOUS….

    HMMM come

  572. gen2lama said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 12:42 pm

    wooooo….100 acres but anak still dont see….waa of coz la 4 ekar wont generate much income….errrr did i mention my only income is fromm that 4 acres?….sigh mind to tell me location of yr parent oil palm?…..

    want to know mine (me and wife)….anytime man….

    curi part time?,…..wey nak curi part time apa?…sapa nak beli buah tak matang?…kata ada 100 acres…tu pun tak tau ka?….BS…diaorang cuti part time nak jual ngan sape?…

    hmmmmm….come to my hometown….i would very happy to invite u…..and look around my kebun2….

    paul buy 2nd hand car …but he dont say people buy proton stupid…ohhh forgot u pun used to own proton kana…sighhh same stupid as me la kot…

  573. gen2lama said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 12:45 pm

    I FULL STOP..

    MY INCOME ….MY LIFE…IS NOTHING TO DO WITH U….U ENJOY YR ‘DRIVE’..I ENJOY MY DRIVE…

    BUT MY OFFER STILL VALID…COME TO MY HOUSE AND I’LL SSHOW U ALL MY GERAN TANAH….

  574. Elvis said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 1:47 pm

    Hahahaha….kesian lerr mamat ni…..

  575. RunnerUp said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

    Aiyooo Elvis.
    The way I see it, you are the one who needs to grow up.

    You accused gen2lama of lying, but you couldn’t prove it.
    In fact, gen2lama came up with his proofs ready for you to check.
    So, did you check?
    And when other people tried to advise you, you accused gen2lama of using different names. Again, no proofs. I can tell by the writing style, language, grammar and all, that they are not the same person. At least farghmee, Prismo, initial R and gen2lama himself are all regulars here in this site.
    And then you started getting personal by commenting on his way of life.
    You even insulted his wife.
    And then you started boasting.
    You called people liar, you called people stupid, you called them mental.

    I’ve seen your comments in other posts, they do make some sense, I must say. But in here you’re just pathetic. Sad la you. Man up, Elvis.

  576. Elvis said,

    September 14, 2009 @ 4:05 pm

    Thank you for advising me to grow up. Appreciate your concern. As for some people, i dont know…..either i feel very sorry or sad, i dont know what to say. I remember a nutcase so in love with his old Toyota Corolla that he defend himself and his TOYOTA COROLLA to death…that is before Proton or Perodua ever exist. Actually i let this matter die…BUT this nutcase never stop! Keep posting about his gen2lama…as if HIS GEN2 is the best! Aiyah, orang lain pun ada kereta MB but just diam2, got palm oil hundred acres also diam2…IF GEN2LAMA THINKS HE IS SO GOOD THEN WHY HE IS BOTHERED TO POST HERE….GO AND OPEN HIS OWN BLOG LAH AND CAN BOAST ALL DAY LONG…
    I am only trying to defend my right as a buyer…aiyah even government also remind us many times to defend our right as buyers…BARU ADA KEMAJUAN…not defend product TAK PAKAI OTAK BRO….
    If you think Perodua is also crappy….then it’s your rite…i also dont like Perodua….overprice cars….then you rite to comment that Perodua cars are crappy, overprice, no safety lorr…you notice or not i dont defend Perodua cars?
    If gen2lama so in love with Proton, did he ever buy shares of Proton? Even go to EGM of Proton? Actually sit down with directors to know what going on inside Proton? Ever actually talked to staff of Proton? Dont he know that staff are complaining salary cuts, bonus cut, dealership termination? Unless he is salesman of Proton…unless i understand his hardcore stand..cari makan mah..if staff also i understand…BUT IF ONLY BOUGHT GEN2 WITH SALESMAN NAME CANNOT REMEMBER ALSO…WHAT AN ASSHOLE….pigilah mampus mamat ni…

  577. gen2lama said,

    September 15, 2009 @ 9:00 am

    TO ELVIS….

    this is yr first comment on my comment….

    – ge2lama, if you want to lie, please check you fact first. Are you sure you gen2 registered 300k mileage? The highest i got is 150k mileage for 1st batch gen2. Dont make yourself sound stupid….

    then i geive u everything to check – the fact…

    people can judge…

    and now i want u to prove -

    1- any of my statement that say my GEN2 is the best car….as i only say that my gen2 can acchieve high millage without any major issue on replying when people ask about the realibility of campro…
    2. – prove that i lie..about driving the gen2 and exora…as i given my plate no already…
    3.-prove that i’m using many username…….remember the ‘proton under cover’ case?
    4 -prove me that i dont know the name of the salesman where i bought the gen2 (he’s no longer proton salesman)..even i can give u his phone no.
    5-prove that i dont support proton…..selain beli share..

    i dont want to waste my time anymore ….just give me the fact….

    -sesungguhnya aku berpuasa hari ini…..

  578. Elvis said,

    September 15, 2009 @ 10:00 am

    Bro…u are real nutcase..u are missing the whole point of the discussion….i really not interested in knowing you….no point making discussion with you. You are wasting you time and my time on proving you SIOK SENDIRI here.

  579. farghmee said,

    September 15, 2009 @ 10:26 am

    gen2lama..
    aku rasa xde pekdah ko layan mamat elvis ni.

    aku rasa aku pernah perasan kete ko kt area2 UPM dulu.
    plet johor kt serdang xramai..

    btw, selamat hari raya :)

  580. gen2lama said,

    September 15, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

    yeahhh farghmee….regular petronas UPM customer…refill NGV every 2 days…

    Selamat Hari Raya….

  581. Toyo said,

    September 15, 2009 @ 5:33 pm

    Wah! gen2lama ni hebatlah! Mesti mahal harga gen2 u kan? Ada ladang kelapa sawit lagi! Wah, saya banggalah dengan awak. Wah! Ada Exora baru lagi! Wah! Ada banglo kat Johor lagi! Wah! Pendapatan pun bukan main banyak!!! Wah! Mesti siok sendiri kan? Jangan lupa beri zakat ya? Ingat ramai lagi saudara saudari kita yang miskin daif ni….Selamat Hari Raya…to Elvis…pigi mampuslah….

  582. k.c said,

    September 15, 2009 @ 10:23 pm

    Apal hal kebum kelapa sawit dengan Viva Elite?….

    At offshore now… suddenly saw Kebum Kelapa sawit came out?

    Hahaha….

    Got ppl earn RM 300 a month can buy Vival elite…. Wow…

    I want sell my kelisa Rm20,000 then buy P2 MPV better….

    Viva Elite just to expensive for me, No worth….

    P2, can give me Dicoucnt RM3~5k + a rear spoiler, and also take my kelisa selling RM20,000…

    Then, Sure I buy ur viva Elite….

  583. gen2lama said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 8:19 am

    To TOYO….

    dont tengok jumlah pendapatan je…..modal investment tu semua kena kira…mcm saya cakap la…income tu semua kasar je baru….belum tolak loan yg aku aamik lg….tapi bangga la gak dapat kebun2 tu semua usaha sendiri …bukan harap dari parent….

    Banglow?…kena buat pasal salah satu kebun amik loan dengan BPP…so kalau tak buat rumah kat tanah tu loan cuma 11 tahun je..kebun lain pun on loan….cuma ada sikit dari bapak mertua…

    sorry la jauah off topic…cuma nak mention kat mamat yg tak percaya orng lain cakap….beli kete murah (walau hampeh) dapat la gak bayar loan tanah bulan2….kalau beli branded car tapi usage sama buat pe kan…

    selamat hari raya semua…..

  584. gen2lama said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 8:30 am

    hmmmm pasal zakat…..JOM SAMA2 BAYAR ZAKAT PENDAPATAN ….DONT PAY TAX….

  585. farghmee said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 10:07 am

    aku bayar dh..kurang2 nye kalu mati nnt senang cket :)

  586. initial R said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 10:14 am

    Pay zakat batter than regular tax. Pahala dapat, kebajikan pun bleh buat…. selamat hari raya…..

  587. Toyo said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 11:22 am

    Ye, betul sangat tu gen2lama. Tapi saya tak suka orang cakap besar ni. Mencari nahas ler. Nasihat saya pada gen2lama, jangan letak nombor kereta kat cni. Nanti satu Malaysia tau yang saudara gen2lama ni banyak harta, senang mereka yang tak berniat baik ambil kesempatan. Banyak juga maklumat gen2lama bagi cni. Kalau sayalah, lebih baik tidak menyatakan apa yang saya ada pada orang lain. Ada yang dengki tu, nak sangat tengok gen2lama gagal walaupun gen2lama berusaha berjaya. Selamat Hari Raya…

  588. gen2lama said,

    September 17, 2009 @ 8:25 am

    selamat hari raya toyo.

    harta kereta proton je…..hehehe

    apa2 pun doa berusaha dan berserah semoga dilindungi….

    maaf pada ssemua kalau ada yg terasa saya cakap besar….manusia biasa…

    SELAMAT HARI RAYA….

  589. Toyo said,

    September 17, 2009 @ 6:58 pm

    Seperti pesan arwah, kalau kita kaya pun kita cakap kita kaya tapi tidak berniat tolong orang lain, tiada guna, bukan bawa kebaikan pada orang lain. Kalau kita tolong orang lain, tapi kita pura2 mengaku kita ni orang susah, Tuhan saja yang tahu membalas kebaikan kita. So that’s why i tak minat sangat orang yang cakap besar tapi 1 sen pun tak mau tolong, sori ya saudara gen2lama, cuma kongsi pesan saja arwah ja.

  590. we270st said,

    September 20, 2009 @ 5:14 am

    very cheap? hahahahaha ……. our gomen still bodoh!!!! pliz compare to the import car—about the Qlty n the price(import car b4 taxs price

  591. jutawanalafbaru said,

    September 26, 2009 @ 1:17 pm

    Assalamualaikum dan Salam Sejahtera…..
    WOW!!!! CUN, MENARIK, ADA GAYA…..
    VIVA MEMANG MANTAP….
    INILAH CARAKU….

  592. Gonggok said,

    September 26, 2009 @ 3:31 pm

    Viva elite very nice……
    Nice look…
    Nice price…
    Nice…. nice….
    crazy….
    Too small….
    Town car….
    Better get ’smart for two’…..
    No pick-up…no power….
    engine shaking….
    Power steering to light…. danger when taking corner…rasa mcm nak terbalik….
    Engine timing too high….more than 1000RPM…crazy…
    long distance?… rasa nak patah pinggang….seat not comfortable…..
    Safety? ….. hmmm…. when hit by bigger car still can live?
    Only engine can be proud…. but Malaysian Style with Japan Technology…
    P2……not value for money….
    Loan 40K++, monthly 450++, loan 9 years……Down payment…..
    Better get cheaper car with bigger space & convenient….

  593. kanmuri sama said,

    September 29, 2009 @ 12:12 am

    i think 45k for the full spec viva elite is quite worth it if u look at the specification.

    although the new proton saga pretty much offer the same specs. but i always prefer perodua cars. proton cars is always a failure. Apalah campro engine pandu sikit temperature sudah naik. To me proton cars is always a failure like our former prime minister said.

  594. lol said,

    October 3, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

    Hi,

    So many bad comment to the p2.
    Anyway the price is a bit higher within the small car range.
    u all shouldnt compare it with SAGA and VIVA.
    there all different segment!!!

    In the Malaysia market cust always thinking for the price 1st over the spec,
    That why the technology and design was so lame,
    That is not the P1 or P2 doesnt come with the decent car such as the latest tech and spec. Is because that is no demand for such therefore how can there supply into this market.

    For example viva using the technology DVVT and etc, a lot of ppl comment about overpriced. Remember buy a car is depend on your personally preference. To me the technology are gettng advance if we wish to enjoy the adv tech so that we must be pay for it.

  595. k.c said,

    October 4, 2009 @ 8:26 pm

    Yup… mahal but getting more ppl buying it…

    The White color looks nicer….

    This car seen to sell well is Sarawak….

  596. y2ggy said,

    October 6, 2009 @ 12:42 am

    Kalau keta kecik mcm ni tapi harga mahal nak mampus… lebih baik beli Tata Nano. Sayang x jual kat Malaysia.

  597. k.c said,

    October 6, 2009 @ 8:28 am

    Depends ur own needs…

    If personal use to go Uni/ Working only in Town area, this small car is nice to use compare bigger size car… (No need use MPV to go working/ Uni…)

    But for ppl who use as Family car, this car not so suitable for my opinion….

    I do agree this car is expensive…. but why still go ppl buy it?

    I asked the dealer, they said Rm1k discount (still Expensive, RM38k here)…

    The white one looks nice for me….

  598. farghmee said,

    October 6, 2009 @ 10:04 am

    no flaming, just pure thought.

    why not consider a baseline manual savvy?

    efficient engine, tough body, good handling, distinctive styling :)

  599. k.c said,

    October 6, 2009 @ 12:40 pm

    Savvy? Bcos of the looks -_-”…. Sorry I have to say so…

    I test drive the Auto Savvy B4… it is nice to drive, handling & performance can say Good & better than kelisa….

    But looks…. No so ok….

    Thanks for the advice….

  600. farghmee said,

    October 6, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

    :)

  601. Man said,

    October 8, 2009 @ 12:00 am

    I love the look of my SAVVY, funky and does not look like any other cars.

  602. jon_labu said,

    October 8, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

    ape la gado-gado..paul tan nk kasi tau update dunia kerete…..korang wat alasan nk gado hahaha…camner la nk kembang

  603. wuttaheck said,

    October 10, 2009 @ 2:44 am

    where’s elvis ‘the P2 salesman’?
    i sure miss that guy
    150 km a day is believable…from serdang to klang
    i myself commute daily from bangi to shah alam, 50 km a trip
    to make it easier to elvis, 50/trip x 2 trips = 100 km
    :)

  604. Elvis said,

    October 10, 2009 @ 7:10 am

    Hehehehe…thanks for missing me bro….even by gfs dont miss me….wut the heck….aiyah, this bashing of Perodua vs Proton stupid onelah….those VVIP of Perodua and Proton buying jet, harley bikes like nothing and we bashing our poor selves….okaylah, u travel 150km a day tats your jokelah bro, wat do i care….drive 150km like no life one…me travel 30km a day with my Nissan Fairlady but very productive day…always get business and always get the pretty girls….no joke…hehehehe…

  605. Sivle (Elvis supporter) said,

    October 11, 2009 @ 2:47 pm

    I agree with everything Elvis said, I have one gf when driving my old car and after I bought this DAMN EXPENSIVE SAFETYLESS VIVA ELITE, I got three gfs and working on the other one.(dont even try to think that they are 220 pounds, although they are not some kind of hottie model, they are cute and at least got good fking body) I cant imagine if you own a Nissan Fairlady. Entertaining girls will be your full time job.

  606. @ said,

    October 11, 2009 @ 3:17 pm

    diorg kt dalam ni bising2 pasal viva elite mahal.. bukannye ape.. nk pakai viva elite tp ongkosnye kureng…pakai pe yg mmpu dah la.. berubah lah.. korang maki2 p2 jual kereta mahal2..nk wat pe bkn leh jadi murah pun..next p2 nk kuar mpv lak.. kite tgk je cmne lak..pe lak korang nk ckp..adios…

  607. Elvis said,

    October 11, 2009 @ 3:46 pm

    Hahahahah…bro Sivle, you really make my day…almost fall from my chair after reading your comment. But bro, sorry for bashing you also ah…hehehe..you think you superman meh…can really service all your three gfs??? Tambah one more again…haiyah… You really what to strip off my superman title ah??? But then again…hhmmnn…it’s your joke, what do i care….i am also like you i guess but dont left any of those gfs pregnant ah….be responsible alwayzzz…cheers bro…

  608. Elvis said,

    October 11, 2009 @ 8:08 pm

    But i must say that Proton reminds me of our great orator exPM Dr. M, so full of hype….but in the end, nothing but leaving us with so much shortcomings….half bake visioner….now retire oledi…still talk cock…BS every now and then…..aiyah…maybe tis is the real meaning of being Malaysian….

  609. puteri said,

    October 25, 2009 @ 2:53 pm

    kalo tak nak bli jgn la kutuk…aku bli gak viva elite ni walau ade dah honda civic baru..
    ape yg pnting viva mmg save minyak gila..lbh2 lg viva elite…
    korang tk gune mmg tak tau la..
    snang nk g keja…kalo gen 2 n saga murah tp minyak parah oooo
    drp gune proton yg enjin camro…ntah2 ape ntah…

  610. farghmee said,

    October 26, 2009 @ 9:19 am

    @puteri…ckp xserupa bikin.

    “kalo tak nak bli jgn la kutuk” <==bagus ayat nasihat ni :)

    "kalo gen 2 n saga murah tp minyak parah oooo
    drp gune proton yg enjin camro…ntah2 ape ntah…" <==mana nasihat td yg ko uar2kn?

    "aku bli gak viva elite ni walau ade dah honda civic baru.." <==pakai je la civic tu. tau pn 1.8l pakai myk lg byk drp 1.0l. btw, 1.6l ngn 1.0l sah2 la lg byk, kn? hehehe

  611. Prince Caspian said,

    November 3, 2009 @ 2:12 pm

    Kalo dah kene langgar ngan lori jangan kan viva, BMW pun hancus gak…..

  612. autojohndoe said,

    November 4, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

    i always drive my NISSAN FAIRLADY… in PC… HAHAHAHA…

  613. Putera080 said,

    November 7, 2009 @ 12:23 pm

    Pada saya nak beli proton atau perodua bergantung kepada saiz keluarga. Kalau dah berkahwin dan dah ada anak, lebih baik beli proton sebab ruang untuk barang-barang lebih luas. Bila balik kampung misalnya, mesti banyak barang yang nak angkut, jadi mesti banyak ruang yang diperlukan. Perodua ni kira sesuai untuk orang bujang sebab ruang untuk simpan barang agak sempit. Untuk berkeluarga pun boleh tapi kena hadkan muatan. Mungkin bawa 1 atau 2 beg kecil saja.

  614. Putera080 said,

    November 7, 2009 @ 12:52 pm

    Dari segi harga pula, harga perodua ni kira mahal sikit berbanding dengan proton. Kalau nak bandingkan proton Saga BLM dengan Viva, harga lebih kurang tapi viva lebih kecil dan sempit. BLM lebih luas ruang dalam dan ruang simpanan barang di belakang lebih besar. Kalau nak banding Persona dengan Mayvi pula, harga mayvi lebih kurang dengan persona tapi ruang dalam dan ruang simpanan barang persona lebih luas dari mayvi. Bentuk persona juga lebih eksklusif berbanding mayvi.

  615. Putera080 said,

    November 7, 2009 @ 1:02 pm

    Dari segi prestasi enjin pula, enjin proton lebih power berbanding perodua. Boleh rujuk perbandingan horsepower dan tork antara perodua dengan proton. Memang jauh ketinggalan kuasa enjin perodua. Kalau nak tau mana yang kuat boleh cuba masa mendaki bukit. Di situ baru nampak kekuatan sebenar enjin kereta. Kalau jalan rata, tak boleh banding sebab ni kira siapa saja yang berani hilang nyawa. Saya dulu pakai proton wira 1.5 manual. Senang2 saja overtake mayvi di bukit. Itu baru proton wira, bayangkan kalau persona, Gen-2, dan Proton Waja CPS. Sekarang dah pakai nissan frontier..senang masuk di jalan gravel.

  616. Putera080 said,

    November 7, 2009 @ 1:10 pm

    Ketahan enjin pula bergantung pada penjagaan kereta. Kereta import yang diagung-agungkan tu pun banyak juga masalah. Tak percaya jenguk2lah pusat service kereta2 import ni..banyak juga yang complain pasal masalah kereta mereka. Setakat bunyi2 tu..mana2 kereta pun bunyi juga. Kalau bawa masuk di jalan tanah merah, berbatu, berlubang sana-sini, kereta import pun boleh keluarkan bunyi gendang. Lainlah kalau macam jalan tar saja setiap hari. Paling penting penjagaan enjin kereta, penjagaan gear box, dan komponen yang kritikal. Sercive minyak kereta mesti ikut jadual. Minyak jangan sembarang hentam saja..

  617. Putera080 said,

    November 7, 2009 @ 1:24 pm

    Dari segi minyak pula, rasanya sama saja. Kalau selalu racing kereta memang kuat makan minyak. Angkat banyak barang pun boleh menyebabkan minyak tak jimat. Kena tengok juga kuasa enjin kereta. Kalau kuasa enjin kecil tapi angkat banyak barang, gerenti tak jimat juga. Bayangkanlah orang yang lemah disuruh angkat beras 60 kg. Keberatan beb..lutut boleh bergegar. Tapi kalau kuasa enjin besar, kuasa membawa beban pun lebih baik. yalah orang yang besar diminta angkat 60 kg beras, mesti lebih kuat. Tenaga banyak.. cuba isikan viva 100kg beras dan isikan saga BLM 100kg beras..bawa berlumba naik bukit..tengok siapa makan habuk..

  618. Putera080 said,

    November 7, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

    Minta maaf bukan nak kondem perodua sepenuhnya..tapi nak bagi pendapat saja berdasarkan pemerhatian dan pengalaman sendiri sebagai pemilik proton. Kena tengok kereta tu secara keseluruhan. Perodua memang bagus tapi cuma kekurangan sedikit dari beberapa segi. Pemilik perodua juga boleh keluarkan pendapat berdasarkan pengalaman mereka menggunakan kereta perodua..kita boleh share dan mungkin orang yang minat beli kereta boleh membuat pilihan berdasarkan pengalaman masing-masing.

  619. john said,

    November 11, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

    Hi is the viva elite got problem?Intend to get one soon…pls email me..thank

  620. k.c said,

    November 12, 2009 @ 11:46 am

    Agree with Putera080 said,…

    For Family ppl…. go for P1….

    For single or just started working go for P1/P2…. (since P2 also go bigger car, MPV)

    As for 100kg beras, bawa berlumba naik bukit…

    1.3 vs 1.0? 4 cylinders vs 3? 1 cylinder diff

    90+hp Vs 60+ hp? 30hp diff….

    No need to race… P1 sure Win…

    but u go for low speed corner…. then diff cerita…..

    P2 enginee better performance at low RPM for my opinion… 2k~3k RPM…

    0~ 90km/hr acceleration ok~ boleh guna…

    After that kena makan by P1…. hp diff clearly can been seen…

    But if u manage to put a 1.3L DVVT in a Manual kelisa Vs 1.3L Campro Saga SE….

    Fair race 400m 1.3 N.A….

    I will said kelisa got chance…..

  621. k.c said,

    November 12, 2009 @ 12:02 pm

    Viva Elite got 1 big problem in Miri, Sarawak!!!

    Discount too less, RM 1000 only for manual….

    So price is around Rm38200!!! Expensive…..

    Why ppl will consider this car?

    Bcos:

    Personal use only to working or Uni life…. save petrol…

    Ppl who always go offshore like me…. Car is useless….

    why u want to pay more? when just started to work & basic salary so low….

    1.0L can bring u to work & back safely also….

    Ppl who buy this car not gonna use it to Race…..

    Race with a 1.0L ? sure no power at all, 60hp? how to race?

    by the way, semenajung ppl should come to sarawak & c the road condition here…..

    We don’t have high way like u guys…….(so, u guys should appreciate with what u guys have now)

    We pay more $$$ when buy a P1/ P2!!!

    But our road condition like -_-”….. Can use lah~

    if every ppl drive safely, do u think we need those air bags?

    most car accident cause buy reckless ppl who always rush here & there then crushed onto the Milo tin users….

    Come on lah, Plant Ur journey…..

    I only use a 1.3l/1.0L can reach detination on time….

    But U use 2.0L/1.6L/1.3L still need to race like F1 yet still Late?

    So, i dont think is the car problem…..

    I personal Mind problems…..

  622. k.c said,

    November 12, 2009 @ 12:41 pm

    To Putera080…

    In reality not every ppl day day naik gunung….

    Persona 1.6L Vs 1.3L Myvi….

    why not Persona?

    Answer…. No ppl said Not to buy Persona….

    I choose myvi… why?

    For “Personal” use only, “Guna seorang Sahaja” & sometime pick up other ppl…

    Not use it to carry 100k beras naik gunung….

    Just Normal life go office/ go Uni!!!!

    Example: Petrol consumption….

    Full tank Myvi Manual RM60++ for RON 97 for usage a week,

    1 month = RM60 * 4 = RM 240….

    1 year = RM240 * 12 = RM 2880

    If persona, Full tank = RM70 (estimated i don’t have a Persona)

    1 month = RM70 * 4 = RM 280… (only Rm40 diff, ooh not much)

    1 year = RM 280* RM 3360….(So, Estimated Rm 480 diff only/ year)

    So, u went to same destination personally only, why U want to pay more RM 480 each year….

    (This is just an opinion from a kedegut ppl, not easy to earn RM480)

    If u earn RM100k/ month sure no problems….

    but if u earn a few 1~2K only…. RM 480 is a lot…..

    This is just depend on ppl/ car buyers… what they need….

    Not every ppl need to cary 100kg stuff & naik gunnug everyday….

  623. Putera080 said,

    November 13, 2009 @ 9:45 pm

    Sorry saya nak bagi penjelasan sikit.Memang betul bukan semua orang naik bukit setiap hari. Nak angkat 100kg tu untuk bandingkan kekuatan sebenar enjin kereta apabila dah ada muatan je.Maksudnya orang boleh buat perbandingan mana kereta yang sesuai dengan corak kehidupan harian mereka. Orang yang selau jalan bawa barang berat boleh pilih kereta mana dan kalau org tu jalan selalu jalan bawa beg kecil je, juga boleh fikir kereta mana. Tapi kat Sabah kebanyakan jalan memang kena melalui bukit yang tinggi. So kekuatan enjin kereta mendaki bukit memang penting (tork dan hp). Orang kat Sabah boleh faham apa yang saya kata. Dah tahu jalan di Sabah ni macam mana. Kat semenanjung memanglah tak banyak bukit. Ada bukit pun jalan cantik, banyak lorong senang overtake trailer, lori dan kenderaan berat lain yang jalan slow sangat di bukit tu. So pendapat yang saya nak beri ni bukan nak kondem..cuma nak share pengetahuan je..

  624. k.c said,

    November 14, 2009 @ 10:34 pm

    Ooh… Ok… In Miri, Sarawak. Town area most are tanah rata only…

    So sorry… never have any experience naik gunung…

    Then maybe larger engine car better for Sabah ppl….

    If like in ur area I would say go for P1…

    Depends on where u stay….. I only been to Sabah once when I was in Form 3 (so long ago, can’t remember/ imagine what’s Sabah looks like now)

    P2 really more suitable for personal use…. if u r racing type driver… dont but P2…..

    P2 cars not suitable….. i would say it can bring u to the destination u want only….

  625. k.c said,

    November 14, 2009 @ 10:35 pm

    Ooh… Ok… In Miri, Sarawak. Town area most are tanah rata only…

    So sorry… never have any experience naik gunung…

    Then maybe larger engine car better for Sabah ppl….

    If like in ur area I would say go for P1…

    Depends on where u stay….. I only been to Sabah once when I was in Form 3 (so long ago, can’t remember/ imagine what’s Sabah looks like now)

    P2 really more suitable for personal use…. if u r racing type driver… don’t buy P2…..

    P2 cars not suitable….. i would say it can bring u to the destination u want only….

  626. khairudin said,

    November 14, 2009 @ 10:50 pm

    isteri saya baru beli viva, kami menghadapi masalah pada ekon, kami sedari apabila ekon tidak sejuk. kami bawa servis di Teluk Intan, masalah yang dihadapi adalah cara pemasangan yang tidak cermat dari pihak perodua. selinder ekon bocor didebabkan berlaga dengan speker hon pada bahagian hadapan di pasang berdekatan dengan selinder ekon, apabila injen dihidupkan dan berlaku gegaran, speker hon tersebut akan berlaga dengan selinder ekon tersebut, apabila proses ini berulang, akibatnya selinder ekon tersebut sedikit demi sedikit lekuk dan akhirnya berlubang dan bocor. masalah betul….. saya harap pihak perodua lebih berhati-hati dan lebih mengambil berat semasa proses pemasangan, agar masalah yang saya hadapi tidak dihadapi oleh pengguna lain. masalahnya saya terpaksa tunggu beberapa hari atau minggu untuk mendapatkan selinder baru………….saya harap pihak perodua faham.

  627. Putera080 said,

    November 15, 2009 @ 5:15 pm

    tak pe. Saja sembang2 saja bah. Saya sekarang ni pun x pakai proton lagi. Saya beli nissan frontier. Senang masuk di jalan2 kampung. Kalau nak angkat barang2 pun senang.Masa saya pakai proton wira dulu, teruk juga kereta tu saya belasah. Masuk jalan kampung yang berlubang, berbonggol, berlumpur. Memang payahlah betul. Bahagian bawah badan kereta selalu sangkut. Nasib baik tak bocor tangki minyak. Kesian kat kereta tu, saya trade in ambil nissan.Tak de lagi masalah. Cadang nak beli mpv la pula nati. Boleh masuk 1 keluarga. Tapi belum pasti nak beli MPV toyota, proton atau perodua…

  628. Putera080 said,

    November 15, 2009 @ 5:20 pm

    X pe. Sembang2 saja bah..saya pn sebanrnya xp pakai proton pun. Pernah pakailah tapi dah trade in ngan nissan frontier. Proton x sesuai masuk di jalan2 kampung. Selalu sangkut bahagian bawah. Takut bocor pla tangki minyak..

  629. sarah said,

    November 21, 2009 @ 3:00 am

    saya baru beli viva elite auto 1.0,harga rm40 ribu ada diskaun 2 ribu jadi 38 ribu.buat pergi kerja dgn pasar.sebelum nie ada pakai kenari,tapi jual sebab pernah terbalik,kena banjir.pastu beli myvi manual suami pakai,saya tak boleh bawa manual.

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